Engineering/physics idea next step?

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The discussion revolves around an engineering idea that incorporates higher-level physics concepts. The original poster, Tommy, seeks advice on the feasibility and next steps for his idea, expressing uncertainty about its practicality and potential for patenting. The conversation touches on the challenges of developing the idea further and concerns about intellectual property.

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Main Points Raised

  • Tommy expresses uncertainty about the practicality of his idea and seeks confirmation of its feasibility before pursuing a patent.
  • Some participants suggest consulting an expert under a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) to assess the idea's potential.
  • Others argue that maintaining complete control over the project limits progress and suggest finding trusted associates or making the idea public.
  • There is a cautionary note about the risks of sharing ideas, as some individuals may take advantage of them.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of starting with a smaller, more manageable project rather than a large-scale idea.
  • Tommy clarifies that his idea does not involve "free" energy and acknowledges the possibility that it may not be feasible with current technology.
  • Another participant advises checking existing patents, as similar ideas may already be patented despite not appearing in general searches.

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Participants express a range of opinions on how to proceed with the idea, with no consensus on the best approach. Some advocate for consulting experts, while others suggest public discussion or collaboration. The feasibility of the idea itself remains uncertain, with differing views on its originality and potential.

Contextual Notes

Tommy's idea is described as potentially large-scale, making prototyping difficult. There are concerns about the energy requirements and technological limitations that may affect its viability. The discussion reflects a mix of caution regarding intellectual property and the challenges of innovation in engineering and physics.

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I am new to this site and need some advice on an idea i have had.

I am an engineer but i have studied physics as a hobby in my spare time, my idea is engineering based but uses some higher level physics. The theories i am using are sound and have been proven.

The problem is i don't know the next step, I am not sure how practical my idea will be in the real world and need to have the idea checked and confirmed that it is actually possible before i can try and patent it.

I have done the usual searches for my idea and come up with nothing, I have scoured the internet trying to find any link or close idea but there is simple no information out there. To be honest it probably won't work and i am happy to find out if it doesnt. I have tried to debunk the idea a lot, the more i do the more I am convinced there is something in it that's worth pursuing. Its also kind of big, i wouldn't be able to make a prototype.

Sorry if i have been vaugue, i don't want to give too much away.

So anyway i am looking for the next step, should i discuss it in a forum and if i did is there a chance my idea could be stolen?

Thanks for any advice

Tommy
 
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Tommyboyblitz said:
I am new to this site and need some advice on an idea i have had.

I am an engineer but i have studied physics as a hobby in my spare time, my idea is engineering based but uses some higher level physics. The theories i am using are sound and have been proven.

The problem is i don't know the next step, I am not sure how practical my idea will be in the real world and need to have the idea checked and confirmed that it is actually possible before i can try and patent it.

I have done the usual searches for my idea and come up with nothing, I have scoured the internet trying to find any link or close idea but there is simple no information out there. To be honest it probably won't work and i am happy to find out if it doesnt. I have tried to debunk the idea a lot, the more i do the more I am convinced there is something in it that's worth pursuing. Its also kind of big, i wouldn't be able to make a prototype.

Sorry if i have been vaugue, i don't want to give too much away.

So anyway i am looking for the next step, should i discuss it in a forum and if i did is there a chance my idea could be stolen?

Thanks for any advice

Tommy
A good next step would be to find an expert consultant in the applicable specialty and hire them under an NDA for a few hours of consulting. They can review your idea and do a quick feasibility study for you. It would probably be a few hours of consulting at something like $200/hour, but it would be a good way for you to find out how much of your idea holds promise (maybe only some parts do, versus the whole thing). You could try Craigslist or similar job resource searches to find a good consultant in your area. :smile:
 
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Your PWM has to be synchronized with the AC Mains zero crossings. You cannot just free-run at 50Hz and have the dimmer work right. Your trigger signal needs to be at some phase angle before the next zero crossing -- you turn on the SCR and the zero crossing turns it off.

You just need to be safety isolated from the AC mains, so you could even use a simple small AC wall wart transformer to give you a low-voltage copy of the AC mains, instead of using a second optocoupler circuit to get it...

EDIT -- Oops, did you delete your reply that I just replied to? No worries.
 
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Nope i think you replied in the wrong post? Or someone posted something and deleted it unrelated to my post?
 
Oops, sorry. Not sure how that happened. Have you looked into finding a consultant to run your idea past? :smile:
 
Actually try to make it work.You'll learn a lot. Be very careful who sees the idea,as some will "adopt" it and sell it,regardless of origin or patent.
 
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Thats the problem, too make it work wpuld require a great deal of money and equipment. I very much doubt i could do it in my shed lol
 
(1) You actually have zero ways to progress if you want to keep complete control of your project and reap the entirety of any rewards .

(2) To make any progress at all you have to either :

(a) Find some associates with the the right background and resources , decide which ones you trust , tell the ones you trust all about the project and invite them to get involved for a share of any rewards .

(b) Make details of the project public and hope for the best .

Give (b) some serious consideration . You could start by discussing your ideas on PF or writing a technical paper and getting it published .

(3) The probability of you having devised something which is actually viable and which no one else has thought of is very small .
 
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NIDUM has made solid points,there.This is an age of giant,big-money,internationally collaborated projects.You would need help.Better to choose something you can build small in a garage,or ,through careful,clever analysis,isolate a breakthrough in a subsystem or think of something everyone has so far missed.Almost every basic idea has been thought of,and almost every one can be improved.
 
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Tommyboyblitz said:
I am new to this site and need some advice on an idea i have had.

I am an engineer but i have studied physics as a hobby in my spare time, my idea is engineering based but uses some higher level physics. The theories i am using are sound and have been proven.

The problem is i don't know the next step, I am not sure how practical my idea will be in the real world and need to have the idea checked and confirmed that it is actually possible before i can try and patent it.

I have done the usual searches for my idea and come up with nothing, I have scoured the internet trying to find any link or close idea but there is simple no information out there. To be honest it probably won't work and i am happy to find out if it doesnt. I have tried to debunk the idea a lot, the more i do the more I am convinced there is something in it that's worth pursuing. Its also kind of big, i wouldn't be able to make a prototype.

Sorry if i have been vaugue, i don't want to give too much away.

So anyway i am looking for the next step, should i discuss it in a forum and if i did is there a chance my idea could be stolen?

Thanks for any advice

Tommy

Check Google Patents. I've had a few good ideas myself and I always end up seeing that they've already been patented even though the idea doesn't come up on google search. Also If it involves "free" energy forget about it. Also you'll get more help if your more specific, "Physics" is a uh big domain. What exactly does the idea pertain to.
 
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Thanks for the reply, i have checked everywhere and can't find anything remotely simalar. I am level headed and no it has nothing to do with "free" energy. In fact it would probably take far to much energy to actually work other than in an experimental environment. Thats probably why I can't find too much about it as its just not possible with todays technology. Maybe in the future it would be feasible.

I know I have been very vague but until I find evidence of its exsistance or potential then i don't want to give to much of it away.

To be honest its probably been thought of and dismissed by someone somewhere before. Either way I have enjoyed going through the calculations and undertanding it. As I have said I am an engineer and this more into Physics than engineering.

Cheers
 

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