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we won , didnt play to well again . i don't think they can handle the temperature, i never realized germany was so hot in the summer.
 
ukmicky said:
we won , didnt play to well again . i don't think they can handle the temperature, i never realized germany was so hot in the summer.

It's not *that* hot. In '94 when the games were in the US there was all kinds of footage of teams dealing with dehydration cramps. I think some of the games in Texas were played in the 120's (almost 50 C).
 
Unconvincing performance by England but they always seem to win without much trouble. I think the media should switch off criticizing Beckham for a while and switch to the whole team attitude instead.
 
England didn't prove to be a strong team throughout the whole match, but the first half was visibly their worst performance.

I'm wondering about Roony's position upfront, I think he needs more support.
 
That penalty in the second quarter was ridiculous. England Shmengland.
 
I thought we played much better.

Though, Sven still seems to be trying to **** things up.

Bringing on Downing in the last minute with the threat of extra time, no more substitutes, and a lone Rooney!



Shocking management.

Sven is the anti-christ!
 
J77 said:
Sven is the anti-christ!

Haha!
Isn't it strange that whenever England looses Svennis is blamed, and whenever England wins he is also blamed...:wink:
Looking at the results he has a quite good record, but maybe that's just because he's been having a great portion of luck...over and over again!:wink:
 
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EL said:
Looking at the results he has a quite good record, but maybe that's just because he's been having a great portion of luck...over and over again!:wink:
Yeah - you can't dispute his record.

However, when you see teams such as Holland and Portugal, with players at the same level (and playing with ours), playing with such intensity, you have to wonder...

Graham Taylor may have been a turnip head but even he had some passion.

And the substitutions...

:-p :wink:
 
Question is what you find more important: Playing attractive football, or winning?

But of course, admit that in the end it all comes down to one fact: He's not English...:wink:
 
England is an overestimated team. Once they encounter the big teams, they will lose.

marlon
 
marlon said:
England is an overestimated team. Once they encounter the big teams, they will lose.

marlon
Valuable insight.

However, with only 3 to play those "big teams" had better show up soon...

:-p
 
I really believe that England have the strongest team of any team in the world cup. With Rooney, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Joe cole, John Terry and Rio ferdinand they should win the world cup. But bad management is going to give other teams the edge over us. So sven better sort himself out otherwise he's going to ruin the best chance england have had of winning the world cup for quite a few years.

COME ON ENGLAND!
 
I would vote for Argentina instead
Lafin the best !
 
marlon said:
England is an overestimated team. Once they encounter the big teams, they will lose.

marlon

Agreed. They have rather ordinary and unimpressive; at the form at which they played ecuador, they are INCREDIBLY LUCKY to not have played Germany and already be knocked out.

However, I admit Joe Cole is a very good player.
 
marlon said:
England is an overestimated team. Once they encounter the big teams, they will lose.

marlon
I don't agree with that ,England have a team with huge potential and ability

Its strange things are just not clicking at the moment, the players are thinking to much and not playing to their natural abilities. Hopefully their confidence will improve so they can go on and win it.

Its like they've been built up so much by the media that their afraid to go out and show the world what they can do in case they make that one mistake and then disappoint the fans. They should just go for it .

The only weak link i can see in the team apart from sven is the goal keeper he just aint good enough, he doesn't command the box and its causing england's defensive players problems because they are holding back in stead of getting forward due to their lack of confidence in him and that in turn is preventing the midfield from moving up the field to score or support the strikers.
 
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EL said:
Haha!
Isn't it strange that whenever England looses Svennis is blamed, and whenever England wins he is also blamed...:wink:
Looking at the results he has a quite good record, but maybe that's just because he's been having a great portion of luck...over and over again!:wink:
People who think they know about football.:smile:

Its quite simple Football is a team game but Englands good record has more to do with the strengths and passionS of the individuals in the team rather than the way that the manager gets the team to play. Sven is so crap at his job that even after all this time he still dosent know what is englands best line up or formation.Thats terrible especially when you consider we are in the middle of the world cup.
Sven is so stupid he left behind the top goal scorer from the premeirships and brought along a boy who has never played in the premeirship or had any top flight football experience ,sven had never even seen him play before he picked him for the team, how mad is that. And that was done with him knowing that englands two main strickers Owen and rooney were still not fit after breaking bones in their feet. sven is mad he is a disaster zone

If england get a manager who knows his stuff and plays the team as a team rather than relying on individual moments of brilliance then no team in the world would stop us at he moment.

Im english so yes i am a little bit bias ,but even so they could seriously be that good.

SVEN NEEDS TO GO BACK TO SWEDEN WHERE HE CAN SpEND THE MILLIONs WHICH THE FA HAVE FOOLISHLY GIVEN HIM
 
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Totally agree with the above!

Especially the thing about passion.

This not only goes for the team, but for us English fans who have to sit through the whole thing every two years (Euros included).

It's not about being pragmatic.

It's not about analysing the team to determine which player's better than which.

It's about playing exciting football. The football we've become used to in the premiership - week in, week out.
 
ukmicky said:
Im english so yes i am a little bit bias
A little...?:wink:

SVEN NEEDS TO GO BACK TO SWEDEN
In fact Sven hasn't lived in Sweden since like 84' or something...
 
England is an overestimated team. Once they encounter the big teams, they will lose.

marlon

What, like Belgium ;)

England arent overestimated, but they are underperforming. Germany have overperformed. If you look at the stats you will see that germany wouldn't have been at this worldcup if it wasnt for the fact they were hosting it. They lost (or drew) to every top flight European team since Euro2004 (and they were crap even before this)

But as Linker once said:

"Football is a game of two halfs, and in the end germany always win"
 
Anttech said:
What, like Belgium ;)
I new i had that coming, but you are wrong. Belgium is not overestimated. Our team sucked bigtime and that is why we are not in the compition.

England should not be as well.

England arent overestimated, but they are underperforming.
:approve: Very diplomatic:approve:


Germany have overperformed.

No comment

If you look at the stats you will see that germany wouldn't have been at this worldcup if it wasnt for the fact they were hosting it. They lost (or drew) to every top flight European team since Euro2004 (and they were crap even before this)

This is irrelevant (and untrue). Besides, it is not very intelligent to compare to a team that is playing great soccer right now. The past does no longer count, man.

But as Linker once said:

"Football is a game of two halfs, and in the end germany always win"
True, but what does this have to do with England being overestimated ? Germany wins because they are the best, it is that simple...
AND YES THEY WILL BEAT ARGENTINA ON FRIDAY

marlon
 
Bladibla said:
However, I admit Joe Cole is a very good player.
IMO, he is just a very lucky player, if you know what i mean.


marlon
 
Marlon, you're talking like a Scotsman.
 
This is irrelevant (and untrue). Besides, it is not very intelligent to compare to a team that is playing great soccer right now. The past does no longer count, man.

LOL.. Its TRUE, and higly relevant considering its the SAME team. I am going to point you to a link which backs up the hard facts of what I just stated.
 
Code: 
01.03.2006	Italien - Deutschland
Florenz (ITA)	4:1 (3:0)		
22.03.2006	Deutschland - USA
Dortmund	4:1 (0:0)		
27.05.2006	Deutschland - Luxemburg
Freiburg	7:0 (3:0)		
30.05.2006	Deutschland - Japan
Leverkusen	2:2 (0:0)		
02.06.2006	Deutschland - Kolumbien
Mönchengladbach	3:0 (2:0)		
09.06.2006	Deutschland - Costa Rica
München	4:2 (2:1)	WM-Vorrunde	
14.06.2006	Deutschland - Polen
Dortmund	1:0 (0:0)	WM-Vorrunde	
20.06.2006	Ecuador - Deutschland
Berlin	0:3 (0:2)	WM-Vorrunde	
24.06.2006	Deutschland - Schweden
München	2:0 (2:0)	WM-Achtelfinale	

Düsseldorf	2:2 (2:1)		
26.03.2005	Slowenien - Deutschland
Celje (SLO)	0:1 (0:1)		
04.06.2005	Nordirland - Deutschland
Belfast (NIR)	1:4 (1:1)		
08.06.2005	Deutschland - Russland
Mönchengladbach	2:2 (1:1)		
15.06.2005	Deutschland - Australien
Frankfurt	4:3 (2:2)	Confederations Cup, Vorrunde	
18.06.2005	Tunesien - Deutschland
Köln	0:3 (0:0)	Confederations Cup, Vorrunde	
21.06.2005	Argentinien - Deutschland
Nürnberg	2:2 (1:1)	Confederations Cup, Vorrunde	
25.06.2005	Deutschland - Brasilien
Nürnberg	2:3 (2:2)	Confederations Cup, Halbfinale	
29.06.2005	Deutschland - Mexiko
Leipzig	4:3 n.e.t.	Confederations Cup, Spiel um Platz 3	
17.08.2005	Niederlande - Deutschland
Rotterdam (NED)	2:2 (1:0)		
03.09.2005	Slowakei - Deutschland
Bratislava (SLK)	2:0 (2:0)		
07.09.2005	Deutschland - Südafrika
Bremen	4:2 (1:1)		
08.10.2005	Türkei - Deutschland
Istanbul (TUR)	2:1 (1:0)		
12.10.2005	Deutschland - China
Hamburg	1:0 (0:0)		
12.11.2005	Frankreich - Deutschland
Paris (FRA)	0:0 (0:0)

taken from http://www.dfb.de/
 
Again, this is irrelevant AND UNTRUE because you are living in the past. The achievements prior to the worldcup are history. Germany got selected according to the rules just like any other team that is in competition. Since the beginning of the tournament, Germany is one of the few teams that actually played good soccer, just like Spain and Argentina.


marlon
 
As an Englishman, I have to admit...

Germany have impressed me, as my team of the tournament so far...

However,

England are just getting going!
 
Again, this is irrelevant because you are living in the past. The achievements prior to the worldcup are history. Germany got selected according to the rules just like any other team that is in competition. Since the beginning of the tournament, Germany is one of the few teams that actually played good soccer, just like Spain and Argentina.
So using your logic, nobody should think that Brazil is the best team in the world. We should get rid of FIFA rankings because "its in the past" :rolleyes: Every team in the world should be judged on the game that is currently getting played. :rolleyes:

We both know this is rubbish.

Germanys prior results before the World Cup are relevant. They show that they are performing above expectations currently. How long will it last? Who knows. How many Big countries scalps do they have---- 0 ---- A BIG FAT NONE. Let's see what happens against Arginetina

By the way, If Germany HAD to qualify looking at there prior results, they wouldn't have been able too. But because they DIDNT have to they are here
 
Anttech said:
So using your logic, nobody should think that Brazil is the best team in the world. We should get rid of FIFA rankings because "its in the past" :rolleyes: Every team in the world should be judged on the game that is currently getting played. :rolleyes:
:smile: Please, this is a bit easy no ?

I don't get how you can draw such a conclusion based upon what i stated before ? Care to explain ?:rolleyes:

Anyhow, i repeat myself once again. Germany got selected according to the general FIFA rules that are the same for each and every country that wants to participate. If Germany was benifited in some way well, than so was any other influential soccer nation. One cannot prove any of these kinds of comments and they mainly arise because of the dislike of some people for a specific team (or perhaps because their own team is playing in an horrible way:rolleyes: ).

And yes, every team is only as good as their last performance. especially in these stages of the world cup.

Germanys prior results before the World Cup are relevant. They show that they are performing above expectations currently.
That is what you say. someone else will say : they were underachieving, they were just getting started or they did not put in their full effort because of whatever reason. really, you have absolutely no point here and that is exactly why i say : IRRELEVANT.

How long will it last? Who knows.

Hey, maybe they become world champion, who knows ? But in that case, following YOUR logic, they were just performing above expectations no ? Well, even if this were the case (which it is NOT, but you know that) WHO CARES.

SOCCER IS NOT MATH, you know.

marlon
 

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