Entropy & Gasoline HW: Answer & Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of entropy changes related to the combustion of gasoline in a car engine. The problem involves understanding the heat produced by gasoline, the efficiency of the engine, and the temperatures at which heat is expelled and absorbed.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the formula for entropy change and question the application of efficiency factors to different components of the system. There are discussions about the heat entering and leaving the engine, and whether certain values should be multiplied by the engine's efficiency.

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Participants are actively questioning the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly regarding the application of efficiency to the heat values. Some have provided revised calculations and are seeking confirmation on the correctness of their approaches. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the discussion is moving towards clarification of the methodology.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific methods or formats for presenting their solutions. There is an ongoing examination of the definitions and assumptions related to heat transfer and efficiency in thermodynamic processes.

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Homework Statement



Premium gasoline produces 1.23×108 J of heat per gallon when it is burned at a temperature of approximately 400ºC (although the amount can vary with the fuel mixture). If the car's engine is 25.0% efficient, three-fourths of that heat is expelled into the air, typically at 20.0ºC.

a) If your car gets 35.0 miles per gallon of gas, by how much does the car's engine change the entropy of the world when you drive 1.00 mile?

b) Does it decrease or increase the entropy of the world?



Homework Equations



ΔS = ΔSHOT + ΔSCOLD


The Attempt at a Solution



a) ΔS = ΔSHOT + ΔSCOLD
ΔS = -((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(400+273 K) + ((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(20+273 K)
ΔS = -3916 J/K + 8996 J/K
ΔS = 5079 J/K

b) Entropy increases (positive value for part a)


Would both ΔSHOT and ΔSCOLD be multiplied by .75, or would one be multiplied by the .25 efficiency?
 
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Art_Vandelay said:

ΔS = ΔSHOT + ΔSCOLD

correct

The Attempt at a Solution



a) ΔS = ΔSHOT + ΔSCOLD
ΔS = -((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(400+273 K) + ((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(20+273 K)
ΔS = -3916 J/K + 8996 J/K
ΔS = 5079 J/K

Would both ΔSHOT and ΔSCOLD be multiplied by .75, or would one be multiplied by the .25 efficiency?

Answer is incorrect.

What is the heat going into the engine and its temperature? What is the heat leaving the engine and its temperature?

Neither gets multiplied by 0.25.
 
rude man said:
correct

Answer is incorrect.

What is the heat going into the engine and its temperature? What is the heat leaving the engine and its temperature?

Neither gets multiplied by 0.25.
The heat going into the engine is 293 K and the heat leaving the engine is 673 K, so if I just multiply both by .75 (like in my attempt), will that give me the correct answer?

a) ΔS = ΔSHOT + ΔSCOLD
ΔS = ((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(400+273 K) - ((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(20+273 K)
ΔS = 3916 J/K - 8996 J/K
ΔS = -5079 J/K

So the entropy of the world decreases?
 
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Art_Vandelay said:
The heat going into the engine is 293 K and the heat leaving the engine is 673 K, so if I just multiply both by .75 (like in my attempt), then switch the minus sign, will that give me the correct answer?

a) ΔS = ΔSHOT + ΔSCOLD
ΔS = ((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(400+273 K) - ((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(20+273 K)
ΔS = 3916 J/K - 8996 J/K
ΔS = -5079 J/K

So the entropy of the world decreases?

Why are you multiplying the heat going into the engine by 0.75? Isn't all of the heat going into the engine? Whereas, isn't some of the heat that went into the engine not going out of the engine but changed into work instead?

Oh, and I just now noticed: you have ΔS of the hot side positive and ΔS of the cold side negative. How come that?
 
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Sorry, by mistake I have added.
 
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rude man said:
Why are you multiplying the heat going into the engine by 0.75? Isn't all of the heat going into the engine? Whereas, isn't some of the heat that went into the engine not going out of the engine but changed into work instead?

Oh, and I just now noticed: you have ΔS of the hot side positive and ΔS of the cold side negative. How come that?

Oh! So, only ΔSCOLD should include .75! I switched back the signs as I had them before--I accidentally mixed them up.

ΔS = ΔSHOT + ΔSCOLD
ΔS = -((1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(400+273 K) + ((.75*(1.23*108 J/gal)*(1 gal/35 mile)*(1 mile))/(20+273 K)
ΔS = -5221 J/K + 8996 J/K
ΔS = 3774 J/K
 
That's a lot better! Everything correct now.
 
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