Enzyme Kinetics: Understanding Basic Concepts and Relevant Equations

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The discussion revolves around enzyme kinetics, specifically focusing on the Michaelis-Menten equation and its derivation. Participants are addressing homework questions related to the application of these concepts and the relevant equations involved in enzyme kinetics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding basic concepts of enzyme kinetics and seeks clarification on the relevance of attached equations and derivations.
  • Another participant suggests deriving the Michaelis-Menten equation using the steady state assumption and mentions that knowledge of biology is not essential for the task.
  • A participant questions whether part (b) of the homework requires plotting a graph and seeks guidance on the type of graph and its interpretation.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the solution for part (a) and outlines a method for solving part (b) involving selecting pairs of data points to derive parameters Km and v(max) from the Michaelis-Menten equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to solving part (a) and the method for part (b), but there is no consensus on the necessity of plotting a graph, as one participant expresses uncertainty about this requirement.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the prerequisites for understanding enzyme kinetics, such as familiarity with kinetics and equilibrium chemistry, are mentioned but not elaborated upon. The discussion also reflects varying levels of comfort with using external files and data representation.

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Homework Statement



Hi, having not studied biology I'm struggling to get to grasps with what are probably basic concepts. Looking through the notes i have i was just wondering if the equations/derivations i'v attached are relevant, and if so how. A link to the powerpoint file can be found here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V3DVK5JX . Here is the question I'm stuck on


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tunabeast said:

Homework Statement



Hi, having not studied biology I'm struggling to get to grasps with what are probably basic concepts. Looking through the notes i have i was just wondering if the equations/derivations i'v attached are relevant, and if so how. A link to the powerpoint file can be found here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V3DVK5JX . Here is the question I'm stuck onhttp://i1.tinypic.com/6xizsyx.jpg
I haven't actually downloaded and looked at the ppt file - I'm a little nervous about things like that. I'd probably be more likely to look at an image file uploaded to an image hosting site, but maybe others here are more daring. The best option would be if you just posted the work here, using the on-site [itex]\LaTeX[/itex] capability.

For (a), it looks like you are asked to derive the Michaelis-Menten equation using d[E]/dt ~ d[ES]/dt -> very small (i.e., steady state assumption).

For (b), you must simply extract the 2 parameters in the MM equation from the dataset. You can do this by plotting the dataset and doing a 2-parameter fit with the MM equation. Or just use two far away data points from the set and solve for Km and max. rate, then check that this gives you accurate predictions for the other rates in the set.

PS: You need essentially no knowledge of biology for this, but kinetics and equilibrium chemistry are probably a pre-requisite.
 
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Thanks very much for the information. I completely understand about the download link, and i'v now attached a PDF file of the presentation. I think the answer to part a may well be on the second page. However unfortunately I'm still at a dead end on (b). Would it require plotting a graph? If so what kind and what would i be trying to interpret from the graph. Thanks again
 

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Your solution to part (a) is spot on!

Part (b) is just a little bit of math - you can find the answers the rigorous way (graphically, but probably unnecessary) or the easy way.

1. Take your final equation for [itex]\nu[/itex] vs. .
2. Notice that the table gives you vs. [itex]\nu[/itex]
3. Pick any two well-separated pairs from the table, say (0.00005, 0.000625) & (0.0003, 0.00167)
4. Plug each pair of values into the equation; you should end up with 2 equations in 2 unknowns (Km and v(max)).
5. Solve for these unknowns.
6. With the values you get for Km and v(max), plug in the other values of into the equation and check that you get answers pretty close to the corresponding values of [itex]\nu[/itex] in the table.
 

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