Epsilon-delta continuity proof

  • Thread starter Thread starter Mr Davis 97
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Continuity Proof
Click For Summary
The discussion focuses on proving the continuity of the function f(x) = 1/x using the epsilon-delta definition. Participants clarify that continuity at a point x0 requires finding a delta that may depend on x0, distinguishing it from uniform continuity. They explore methods to bound expressions related to the function, particularly addressing challenges with the denominator in the continuity proof. The conversation also touches on an example of proving continuity for x^2 at 2, emphasizing the need for appropriate bounds and the selection of delta. Ultimately, the key takeaway is the importance of ensuring that the limit condition is satisfied for continuity at a specific point.
Mr Davis 97
Messages
1,461
Reaction score
44

Homework Statement


Prove that ##f(x) = \frac{1}{x}## is continuous using the epsilon-delta definition of continuity.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


We will assume that the domain of ##f## is ##\mathbb{R} / \{ 0\}##. Let ##x_0## be in the domain. First, we look at ##\displaystyle |f(x) - f(x_0)| = \frac{|x-x_0|}{|x||x_0|}##. The problem I now see is with the denominator. We need to get a bound for ##\frac{1}{|x|}## that does not depend on ##x##. I am not exactly sure how I would go about doing this... Any tips?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
What is the definition of continuity of ##f(x)## at ##x_0\,?## I seems you confused continuity and uniform continuity. In other words: What makes you think, that ##\delta ## has to be independent of ##x_0\,?##
 
fresh_42 said:
What is the definition of continuity of ##f(x)## at ##x_0\,?## I seems you confused continuity and uniform continuity. In other words: What makes you think, that ##\delta ## has to be independent of ##x_0\,?##
I don't think that ##\delta## is independent of ##x_0##. I'm just trying to show that it is continuous. In fact, I haven't formally learned about uniform continuity yet.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
I don't think that ##\delta## is independent of ##x_0##. I'm just trying to show that it is continuous. In fact, I haven't formally learned about uniform continuity yet.
Well, that's the difference: ##\delta ## independent of ##x_0## then uniform continuous, if not, as with ##f(x)=\frac{1}{x}## then ordinary continuity. Nevertheless we need a definition. And the bounds for ##x_0## is ##x_0## itself. It is a fixed value, and with it, ##x## cannot be very different from it. You don't have (and need) independence of ##x_0##.
 
The definition of continuity I'm using is that a function is continuous at ##x_0## if and only if ##\forall \epsilon > 0 \exists \delta > 0 \forall x \in dom(f) [|x-x_0|< \delta \implies |f(x) - f(x_0) < \epsilon|]##.

Could we start with an easier one? Suppose I wanted to prove that ##x^2## is continuous at 2. So we first look at ##|x^2 - 4| = |x+2||x-2|##. So we need to get a bound on ##|x+2|##. How is this done?
 
Last edited:
It's sometimes helpful to start from behind. Say ##|x^2-4|=|x+2||x-2| < |x+2|\cdot \delta < (\delta + 4)\cdot \delta < \varepsilon## is what we want to get. Now search for a ##\delta ## which does it, if ##\varepsilon## is given.

The same with ##f(x)=\frac{1}{x}##. Write ##x_0=c## and treat it as a constant. You might eventually need to distinguish between points in ##(-1,0) \cup (0,1)## and the ones with ##|x_0| > 1##.
 
fresh_42 said:
It's sometimes helpful to start from behind. Say ##|x^2-4|=|x+2||x-2| < |x+2|\cdot \delta < (\delta + 4)\cdot \delta < \varepsilon## is what we want to get. Now search for a ##\delta ## which does it, if ##\varepsilon## is given.

The same with ##f(x)=\frac{1}{x}##. Write ##x_0=c## and treat it as a constant. You might eventually need to distinguish between points in ##(-1,0) \cup (0,1)## and the ones with ##|x_0| > 1##.
What if I supposed that ##|x-2|<1##, and so ##|x| < 3##, which means that ##|x+2| < |x| + 2 < 5##? The thing is, my book does this to get a bound, but I'm not sure why. It goes on to claim that I should let ##\delta = \min \{1, \epsilon / 5 \}##, which I also don't understand.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
What if I supposed that ##|x-2|<1##, and so ##|x| < 3##, which means that ##|x+2| < |x| + 2 < 5##? The thing is, my book does this to get a bound, but I'm not sure why. It goes on to claim that I should let ##\delta = \min \{1, \epsilon / 5 \}##, which I also don't understand.
We have to get to ##|x^2-4| \stackrel{(*)}{<} \varepsilon##. We know ##|x-2| < \delta##. This means combined, we have to prove ##|x+2|\cdot \delta < \varepsilon##. Now if ##|x+2|<C## for some constant, we're done, because then we have ##|x^2-4|< C \cdot \delta ## and with ##\delta := \varepsilon \cdot C^{-1}## we get ##(*)##.

The minimum value for ##\delta## is only to guarantee the inequalities with ##\delta < 1## and then ##|x+2| < 5## and then ##|x^2-4| < C\cdot \delta = 5 \cdot \delta < \varepsilon ##.

All that counts is: ##\lim_{x \to x_0} f(x) = f(x_0)##. So for a given, fixed, but arbitrary small ##\varepsilon##, a ##\delta ## must be found, such that ##|x-x_0| < \delta## implies ##|f(x)-f(x_0)| < \varepsilon##. Which delta is chosen and how doesn't matter. The implication must hold. If in doubt, make it smaller.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
The definition of continuity I'm using is that a function is continuous at ##x_0## if and only if ##\forall \epsilon > 0 \exists \delta > 0 \forall x \in dom(f) [|x-x_0|< \delta \implies |f(x) - f(x_0) < \epsilon|]##.
Close, but not quite right. You shouldn't have absolute values around the whole last inequality. It should be ##|f(x) - f(x_0)| < \epsilon##
Mr Davis 97 said:
Could we start with an easier one? Suppose I wanted to prove that ##x^2## is continuous at 2. So we first look at ##|x^2 - 4| = |x+2||x-2|##. So we need to get a bound on ##|x+2|##. How is this done?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
22
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 31 ·
2
Replies
31
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K