Equation of a plane through 2 points, parallel to a line.

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a plane that passes through two given points, A(2,1,-1) and B(1,5,-4), and is parallel to a specified line. Participants are trying to understand the steps involved in deriving the plane's equation, particularly the algebraic manipulations and the use of the cross product in relation to the normal vector of the plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the professor's solution, particularly the transition to the equation involving coefficients A, B, and C. Questions arise about the origin of specific algebraic expressions, such as 9B=7C, and the use of the cross product to find the normal vector of the plane.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding the algebraic steps taken by the professor, while others suggest that the cross product approach provides a valid method to find the normal vector. There is acknowledgment that the notation used may lead to misunderstandings, but no consensus has been reached on the specific algebraic manipulations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for confusion due to the use of the same letters (A and B) for both points in the plane and the coefficients of the normal vector. This may contribute to the difficulty in following the solution process.

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Homework Statement


I'm trying to understand my professor's solution to a quiz problem. I can follow it up to a point, but then I'm getting confused as to how he continues. The question is:

Find an equation of the plane [tex]p[/tex] through [tex]A(2,1,-1)[/tex] and [tex]B(1,5,-4)[/tex] parallel to the line [tex]L: x=1 + 2t, y=-1+t, z=-2-t[/tex].

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The Attempt at a Solution


This is the solution that was given:

[tex] p: A(x-2)+B(y-1)+C(z+1)=0[/tex]

[tex] B \in p: A(1-2)+B(5-1)+C(-4+1)=0[/tex]

[tex] L \|p \Leftrightarrow \vec{d}\bot \vec{n}\Leftrightarrow 2A+B-C=0[/tex]

He then solves for [tex]C[/tex], getting [tex]C=2A+B[/tex].

The next step is where I get lost:

[tex] 9B=7C \Rightarrow B=\frac{7}{9}C[/tex]

[tex] A=4B-3C=4 \cdot \frac{7}{9}C - 3C=\frac{1}{9}C[/tex]

[tex] A=1, B=7, C=9[/tex]

[tex] \vec{n}=(1,7,9)[/tex]

[tex] x-2+7(y-1)+9(z+1)=0 \Rightarrow x+7y+9z=0[/tex]

It is the [tex]9B=7C[/tex] part that I don't get. Where are those coefficients coming from? Thanks for any assistance anyone can provide.
 
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I think what your prof is doing is using the idea that the cross product of a vector in the plane with the direction of the line will be parallel to the normal to the plane.

I.e., <-1, 4, -3> X <2, 1, -1> = k<A, B, C>

The first vector in the equation above is AB, the second is the direction of the line.

It is unfortunate that A and B are used both for points in the plane and for the coordinates of the plane's normal. This duplication can lead to confusion.
 
Thank you so much. Taking the cross product does lead to the normal vector he eventually arrived at. I still don't understand exactly what algebraic manipulations he was performing to get there his way, but as long as I have some way of arriving at the correct answer, I'll be happy.

Thanks again.
 
The cross product works in this problem because the vector from A to B is not parallel to the direction vector of the line.
 

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