Equation of circle with arc length

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The problem involves finding parameters of a circle given its equation, x^2+(y+a)^2=R^2, with specified x-intercepts and an arc length above the x-axis. The values of 'a' and 'R' are to be determined based on the provided conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the arc length and the radius, with one participant attempting to derive a relationship using arcsin. Others question the feasibility of solving the equation without computational assistance and suggest alternative methods like guess-and-check.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various approaches to find 'a' and 'R'. Some have offered guidance on using assumptions or approximations, while others express a desire for a more rigorous solution. There is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of solving the problem without computational tools and the constraints of seeking an exact answer rather than an approximation.

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Homework Statement


Equation of a circle is:
[tex]x^2+(y+a)^2=R^2[/tex]

x intercepts are [tex]+/-\sqrt{3}[/tex] and arclength above x-axis is [tex]\frac{4\pi}{3}[/tex]

Find a and R.
 
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Hi Grand! Welcome to PF!

(have a square-root: √ and a pi: π and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:
 
Hello, I've been tackling the problem for a while and the equation that I managed to come up with is:
[tex]\arcsin{\frac{\sqrt{3}}{R}}=\frac{4\pi/3}{2R}[/tex]

I can't solve it, and haven't found anything else useful.
 
Hello Grand! :smile:

Yes, that looks good …

but it's obviously unsolvable without a computer, sooo :rolleyes:

hadn't you better assume the answer is really obvious, and just make a guess and see if it's right? :biggrin:
 
Well, is it? Even though it is stated in the book, I want to find a way to actually obtain it. Is there a way?
 
hmm :rolleyes: … computer, Newtonian approximation, bribing the TA … :wink:
 
Taylor was my guess too, but here we aim at an exact answer, so we should not use it. Even though, how would you guess the answer?
 
uhhh? :confused:

how many angles do you know with "√3" in the sine ? :smile:
 
Yeah, alright. But come on, there must be some rigorous way doing it - I've been solving it for couple of hrs now, even managed to prove Pythagoras with it.
 
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What's wrong with guess-and-check? It's a valid method. I don't mean to put you down, but combining this method with drawing a diagram, I was able to get the answer within minutes.
 

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