Equation of Perpendicular Line to Tangent Line at f(x)= x√x P(1,1)

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a line that is perpendicular to the tangent line of the function f(x) = x√x at the point P(1,1). Participants are exploring the use of limits to derive the slope of the tangent line, as derivatives have not yet been learned.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the limit definition of the derivative but are encountering difficulties with indeterminate forms. There are questions about the correct application of the limit formula and the proper use of parentheses in mathematical expressions.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the clarity of the mathematical expressions being used, suggesting that proper notation is crucial for understanding. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clearer formatting in the attempts shared, but no consensus on the next steps has been reached.

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Participants have noted that they are required to use limits instead of derivatives, which may be contributing to the complexity of the problem. There is also a mention of a lack of familiarity with LaTeX formatting, which has led to confusion in the presentation of mathematical expressions.

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Homework Statement


find the equation of the line perpendicular to the tangent line at the given point f(x)= x√x P(1,1)

Homework Equations


f(a+h) - f(a) / h

The Attempt at a Solution


ok so first i replace (f(a) and f(a+h) in the equation x√x, and then i get

1. a+h√a+h - a√a / h, then i rationalize the numerator and then i get
2. a+h)^2(a+h) - a^2(a) / h(a+h)√a+h + a√a

and if i try expanding this etc i just get indeterminate form.. where did i go wrong ?i still get indeterminate form even after using 1 instead of a
 
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oh and btw i haven't learned derivatives, so i have to use limits
 
Maliken said:

Homework Statement


find the equation of the line perpendicular to the tangent line at the given point f(x)= x√x P(1,1)

Homework Equations


f(a+h) - f(a) / h
Your formula needs more parentheses. What you wrote means
$$f(a + h) - \frac{f(a)}{h}$$
There need to be parentheses around the entire numerator, like so: (f(a+h) - f(a)) / h
To look really nice, you can use LaTeX (see https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/physics-forums-faq-and-howto.617567/#post-3977517)

Maliken said:

The Attempt at a Solution


ok so first i replace (f(a) and f(a+h) in the equation x√x, and then i get

1. a+h√a+h - a√a / h, then i rationalize the numerator and then i get
2. a+h)^2(a+h) - a^2(a) / h(a+h)√a+h + a√a
Both the above are really hard to read, due to many missing parentheses. For one, the entire numerator needs parentheses around it. For another, a + h√a + h doesn't mean what you intend, which is that a + h is multiplying √(a + h). Also, in #2, you are missing a left parenthesis at the beginning of the line.
Maliken said:
and if i try expanding this etc i just get indeterminate form.. where did i go wrong ?i still get indeterminate form even after using 1 instead of a
Please rewrite the two expressions above so that we can read them.
 
Maliken said:

Homework Statement


find the equation of the line perpendicular to the tangent line at the given point f(x)= x√x P(1,1)

Homework Equations


f(a+h) - f(a) / h

The Attempt at a Solution


ok so first i replace (f(a) and f(a+h) in the equation x√x, and then i get

1. a+h√a+h - a√a / h, then i rationalize the numerator and then i get
2. a+h)^2(a+h) - a^2(a) / h(a+h)√a+h + a√a

and if i try expanding this etc i just get indeterminate form.. where did i go wrong ?i still get indeterminate form even after using 1 instead of a

You definitely do NOT want what you wrote, which was
f(a+h)- \frac{f(a)}{h}
Can you see how to write things properly?
 
ok I am sorry lol i didnt know about latex , i got it though so thanks i guess

i forgot to expand one of my binomials
 
Maliken said:
ok I am sorry lol i didnt know about latex , i got it though so thanks i guess

i forgot to expand one of my binomials

You do not need LaTeX; you need parentheses, like this: [f(a+h) - f(a)]/h. You need to make sure that when your expressions are read by standard parsing rules they come out saying what you want. Remember: multiplication and division have higher priority than addition and subtraction, etc.
 

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