Equation of tangent line at sqrt(x)

[loadsy]

Hey, right now in our calculus course we are currently working on "derivatives" using the differentiation equations. I was hoping that someone could help me out with the following question:

Find the equation of the tangent line to the curve at the given point.

y = rootX , (4, 0.4)
------
X + 1

It's not an overly difficult question because we know that the equation is y-0.4 = m(x-4) and we are looking for m(the slope), and we also know that we should be using the formula f'(x)g(x)-g(x)f'(x)/[g(x)]^2

However, I'm still having some difficulties in working this out, if someone could please shed some light on this, I'd be happy. :D

 

[courtrigrad]

So y = \frac{\sqrt{x}}{x+1}. Have you used the quotient rule?

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{(x+1)\frac{1}{2}x^{-\frac{1}{2}} - x^{\frac{1}{2}}}{(x+1)^{2}}

Can you simplify this? You could just put in x = 4, without simplifying. Do you understand how to get the above expression?

f(x) = \sqrt{x} and g(x) = x+1So what is f'(x) and g'(x)?

 

[cepheid]

Well, you have the method, so now work it out step by step:

f(x) = \sqrt{x}

g(x) = x+1

\left(\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}\right)' = \frac{g(x)f'(x) - f(x)g'(x)}{[g(x)]^2}

Anyway, this is your cue to take over:

f'(x) = \textrm{?}

g'(x) = \textrm{?}

Substitute these expressions into the expression for the derivative and evaluate at x = 4.

 

[loadsy]

Ahhh alrighty, well I understand what you are saying, but I did the following:
dy
-- = (x+1)d/dx (squarerootx) - (squarerootx)d/dx(x+1)
dx -------------------------------
(X+1)^2


= (x+1)1 - (squarerootX)1
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2squarerootX
---------------------------------
(x+1)^2


Is that stating the same thing as you had, or have I misinterpreted this.

Also, after that step, I'm not sure how to simplify it though. I know the (x+1)^2 moves up and the denominator becomes 2squarerootX(X+1)^2 but it's solving in the numerator that is giving me troubles.

 

[loadsy]

Actually nevermind what I just said, how abouts do you simplify the expression you just gave me courtrigad? Could you just take out the x^-0.5?

 

[courtrigrad]

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{(x+1)\frac{1}{2}x^{-\frac{1}{2}} - x^{\frac{1}{2}}}{(x+1)^{2}} = \frac{\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}-\frac{\sqrt{x}}{1}}{x+1} = \frac{1-2x}{2\sqrt{x}(x+1)}Divide by x+1 in the numerator and denominator and change x^{-\frac{1}{2}} to \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}}

 

[loadsy]

Oh my goodness, how did I miss that? Haha I feel very silly now. Thank you so much, I actually just talked it over with a friend and he said the same thing. Thanks for your time though, I really appreciate it! :D