Equations of motion ( vectors )

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The problem involves two particles moving under the influence of gravity, with initial velocities in opposite directions. The objective is to determine the distance between the particles when their velocity vectors become mutually perpendicular.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the trajectory of the particles, with some suggesting it may form a half-ellipse, while others question this assumption and explore the nature of their paths as vectors. There are inquiries about how to express the paths mathematically and what it means for the velocity vectors to be orthogonal.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and prompting each other to consider the horizontal and vertical components of the velocities. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the angles of the velocity vectors and their orthogonality, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of uniform gravitational acceleration and the initial conditions of the problem, while also addressing the challenge of combining the motion of the two particles in a coherent manner.

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Homework Statement



Two particles move near the surface of the Earth with u. acc 10 m/s^2 towards the ground . At the initial moment , the particles were located at one point in space and moved with velocities 3m/s and 4 m/s in opposite directions . Find the distance between the particles when their velocity vectors are mutually perpendicular .

Homework Equations


s = ut + 1/2 at^2


The Attempt at a Solution



the trajectory of the particles should form a half - ellipse .

That's as far as i got , how should i relate the mutually perpendicular thing ??
 
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the trajectory of the particles should form a half - ellipse .
No.
You can work with a homogeneous gravitational field here (same 10m/s^2 downwards everywhere). How do the paths look like? Can you write them as vectors?
 
As they have the same origin and are moving in opposite directions , while one's velocity is greater under uniform gravitation , Their paths together should form a half ellipse . :/
 
How does the path of the first object look like?
How does the path of the second object look like?

There is no way to combine them to a part of an ellipse, even if an ellipse can look a bit similar.
 
so it will not form an ellipse , how should i solve this ?
 
With the hints I gave in my posts?

After time t, what are the horizontal and vertical velocities of the objects?
What does "orthogonal" mean for vectors?
 
Since there is no force in the horizontal direction,velocity changes only in the vertical direction.Assume after some time t they(velocity vectors) subtend some angles(α and β) with the horizontal.Since both the vectors should be perpendicular,derive a relation and solve.

Hope this hepls
 

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