Equilibrium of a rigid body under coplanar forces

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The problem involves a ladder resting against a wall, supported by a horizontal tie rope, with forces acting on it including the weight of the ladder and a child. The goal is to determine the tension in the tie rope and the force components at the foot of the ladder, given specific weights and angles.

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  • Participants discuss the application of torque and force equilibrium equations, with one participant expressing difficulty in visualizing the setup when the ladder is at an angle.
  • There is a question about the relationship between the tension force and its components, particularly regarding the geometry of the forces involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on drawing diagrams and understanding the components of forces. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify the relationship between the tension force and its components.

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Homework Statement



The foot of a ladder rests against a wall,and its top is held by a horizontal tie rope. The ladder weighs 100 N and its center of gravity is 0.4 of its length from the foot. A 150 N child hangs from a rung that is 0.2 of the length from the top. Determine the tension in the tie rope and the components of the force on the foot of the ladder. The angle between the wall and the ladder is 37°

Homework Equations



Sum of torques = 0
Sum of forces = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Sum of torques = (60.2N)(0.4L) + (90.3N)(0.8L) + (x)(L)
x= -96.32 N
The tension of the rope only has an x component so I don't think this calculation helps. I'm comfortable doing calculations when the beam is horizontal but I can't figure this one out.
 
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pepi78 said:

Homework Statement



The foot of a ladder rests against a wall,and its top is held by a horizontal tie rope. The ladder weighs 100 N and its center of gravity is 0.4 of its length from the foot. A 150 N child hangs from a rung that is 0.2 of the length from the top. Determine the tension in the tie rope and the components of the force on the foot of the ladder. The angle between the wall and the ladder is 37°

Homework Equations



Sum of torques = 0
Sum of forces = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Sum of torques = (60.2N)(0.4L) + (90.3N)(0.8L) + (x)(L)
x= -96.32 N
The tension of the rope only has an x component so I don't think this calculation helps. I'm comfortable doing calculations when the beam is horizontal but I can't figure this one out.

You've used the wrong trig function to determine the portion of the weights acting perpendicularly to the ladder. Draw a diagram.

The tension in the rope is going to have components that run along the ladder and perpendicular to the ladder. The component that's perpendicular to the ladder is what is keeping the ladder from rotation about the foot pivot point.
 
Thanks for the reply. I did draw a diagram. Is the perpendicular force at the end of the beam the hypotenuse of the tension force?
 
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pepi78 said:
Thanks for the reply. I did draw a diagram. Is the perpendicular force at the end of the beam the hypotenuse of the tension force?

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The vector representing the tension in the rope will be the hypotenuse of the force triangle. Components will be perpendicular to and along the ladder.
 

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Thank you. I understand now. I really appreciate the help.
 

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