Equivalence class of 0 for the relation a ~ b iff 2a+3b is divisible by 5

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The problem involves an equivalence relation defined on integers, where two integers a and b are related if 2a + 3b is divisible by 5. The original poster seeks to determine the equivalence class of 0 under this relation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the reasoning behind the proposed equivalence class of 0, specifically considering the implications of the relation being satisfied for certain values of a and b. There is also a question regarding the completeness of the equivalence class notation.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the equivalence relation and the nature of equivalence classes. Some participants express uncertainty about whether the relation qualifies as an equivalence relation, while others explore the implications of the definitions provided.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the requirements for an equivalence relation, specifically the need for symmetry in the relation. Additionally, some participants question the completeness of the original poster's understanding of equivalence classes.

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Homework Statement



~ is a equivalence relation on integers defined as:
a~b if and only if 2a+3b is divisible by 5

What is the equivalence class of 0

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The Attempt at a Solution



[0] = {0, 5n} n is an integer

My reasoning for choosing 0 is that if a=0 and b=0, the relation is satisfied since 2(0)+3(0) = 0 and 5 divides 0, so 0~0
My reasoning for choosing 5n is that if a=0 and b=5n, or the other way around, then 2(0)+3(5n)=3(5n), which is a multiple of 5, and thus divisible by 5, satisfying the relation, making 0~5n

I got 0 marks for the question, but I don't know if it's because the statement isn't assembled properly, or if it's because I don't know what an equivalence class is. Please help me see my error

 
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jeszo said:

Homework Statement



~ is a equivalence relation on integers defined as:
a~b if and only if 2a+3b is divisible by 5

What is the equivalence class of 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



[0] = {0, 5n} n is an integer

My reasoning for choosing 0 is that if a=0 and b=0, the relation is satisfied since 2(0)+3(0) = 0 and 5 divides 0, so 0~0
My reasoning for choosing 5n is that if a=0 and b=5n, or the other way around, then 2(0)+3(5n)=3(5n), which is a multiple of 5, and thus divisible by 5, satisfying the relation, making 0~5n

I got 0 marks for the question, but I don't know if it's because the statement isn't assembled properly, or if it's because I don't know what an equivalence class is. Please help me see my error

In order to have an equivalence relation, we need both a ~ b and b ~ a, so we need both 2a + 3b and 2b + 3a to be divisible by 5.

RGV
 
In response to Ray Vickson:
With 0 and 5n as the equivalence class for 0, wouldn't it still hold true that 0~0,5n~0 and 0~5n? Since, 2(5n)+3(0)=5(2n) and 2(0)+3(5n)=5(3n)?
 
It's redundant to include the zero in {0, 5n}, since if n=0, then 5n=0.

A better notation would be, [0] = {5n| n is an integer.}

Regarding Ray Vickson's comment, I agree with you.

The equivalence class of 0, is the set of all integers related to 0. I.e. it's the set of all integers, m, such the m~0 .
 
What, exactly, was the question? I suspect it was to determine whether or not this was an equivalence relation and, if so find the equivalence class containing 0.

As Ray Vickson said, this is NOT an equvalence relation and so does NOT have "equivalence classes".
 

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