Estimate the binding energy of the H2 molecule

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The problem involves estimating the binding energy of the H2 molecule, given specific distances between hydrogen nuclei and the behavior of electrons. The context is rooted in molecular physics and electrostatics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of Coulomb's law and potential energy equations, questioning the definitions and roles of variables like E1 and E2. There is exploration of the effective charge of electrons and how they influence the binding energy calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the expressions used for energy and potential. Some guidance has been offered regarding the consideration of charge distributions and the need to account for multiple interactions among particles.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the charge interactions in the H2 molecule, including the asymmetry introduced by electron distribution and the concept of charge screening. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of these factors in the context of the binding energy calculation.

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The problem is this:
Estimate the binding energy of the H2 molecule, assuming the two H nuclei are 0.074 nm apart and the two electrons spend 33% of their time midway between them.

I assume that this problem uses the equation F=ke2/d.

So far, I have that E1=F1d, and E2=F2v*t*0.33. Then, we know that the binding energy E should be E1-E2, and therefore E=0.67E1. And E1=ke2/d. Is this correct so far? And where do I go from here? I do know that the correct answer is 4.6 eV, but just can't get there. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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So far, I have that E1=F1d, and E2=F2v*t*0.33. Then, we know that the binding energy E should be E1-E2, and therefore E=0.67E1.

You're going to need to explain what E1 and E2 are supposed to be. If you're using F to represent the Coulomb potential energy between two charges (at least that's what you've written), how can Fd be an energy? What exactly is E2? Where would values for 'v' and 't' come from?

You'll want to go back to the expression for the electric potential energy

[tex]U = \frac{k \cdot q^2}{d}[/tex]

Consider that there are four charges here, two protons and two electrons. The electrons act effectively as if 1/3 of each of their charges are at the midpoint of the molecule, attracting the protons. (The particle configuration leads to an asymmetry of electron charge around the nuclei.) What energies do you find between the various pairs of particles?
 
dynamics's tagline says it all. Draw it with those 1/3-charged electrons in there, and then work out all the distances and charges. Luckily potential and energy are scalars.
 
I don't think we're quite there yet, but here's another thing to consider. As seen from the midpoint or the other nucleus, the charge of each nucleus is partially "screened" (as they say) by the electron charge distribution around it. So the charge on each nucleus must be treated as being effectively something like +(1/3)e.
 

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