Euler's Equation: A sign from god?

  • #51
Phi is actually also thought to be of "divine" influence. Curiously, if you take the sine of 666, you get exactly 1/2 the negative value of Phi, or what some people call the "anti" phi.
 
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  • #52
Dan Brown talks about the divine qualities of phi in one of his books (either Angels and Demons or Da Vinci Code). It's actually very interesting.

I, like many, believe that math was invented and not discovered. However, I just got to thinking about irrational numbers. For instance, the digits of pi exist, but we have not yet discovered all of them. This isn't a good argument though, so I continue to believe that math was invented.
 
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  • #53
We imposed our invented structures onto the world. Hence it may appear that the results come from nature, but actually we said what a circle is in the first place, and of course the ratio between circumference and diameter should be the same -- we defined all circles to be similar shapes.
 
  • #54
gravenewworld said:
Phi is actually also thought to be of "divine" influence. Curiously, if you take the sine of 666, you get exactly 1/2 the negative value of Phi, or what some people call the "anti" phi.

Please don't say "Phi is actually also thought to be of "divine" influence" without saying BY WHOM that is thought! I seriously doubt that there are very many people today who think that.
 
  • #55
ksinclair13 said:
For instance, the digits of pi exist, but we have not yet discovered all of them.

Actually, we have: they are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.
 
  • #56
this someway makes me laugh...although i,m a bit agnostic rather than 2believer" this would not prove nothing but a beatiful number relationship..similar to the thousands and thousands that there is in math..

-The argument of the equation reminds me the "controversial" of the prove of good make by Mapertuis and supported by others in the sense that for all good physical theories there is a variational principle in which the action S is minimized in the sense \delta{S}=0 then we have recalling Euler,s equation another identity:

e^{2i\pi}-1=0 would it prove the existence of evil?..

i didn,t want to offend anybody...of course i would like that god or something similar forgiving and almighty entity existed and gave us the "Garden of Eden"...
 
  • #57
Thank you Doodle Bob for clearing that up for me.
 
  • #58
If every coincidence is a sign from God, then not only does God give out random and possibly contradictory signs, but since we can define structures and produce events that will purposedly lead to coincidences, then we are able to tell God what signs to give us. :smile:
 
  • #59
If one dinosaur met another dinosaur there were 2 dinosaurs, surely?
 
  • #60
Well, this thread has run its course (the mathematical content anyways), so I'm going to lock it, so there's no more necromancy. If anyone wants to continue the philosophical discussion, feel free to start a thread in the philosophy of math forum.
 
  • #61
gravenewworld said:
Phi is actually also thought to be of "divine" influence. Curiously, if you take the sine of 666, you get exactly 1/2 the negative value of Phi, or what some people call the "anti" phi.

Do you just assert things without even checking? Any one with a calculator can see that's not even close to true.

phi= \frac{1+ \sqrt{5}}{2}= 3.236 approximately.

You don't say whether your "666" is supposed to be in degrees or radians. Assuming you meant radians, sin(666)= -0.1764, approximately, and assuming degrees, sin(666)= -.8090, approximately.

Of course, phi couldn't possibly be "sin(666)" in any units, or even sine of any number because it is larger than 1!
 
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