Europiums electron configuration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the electron configuration of Europium, exploring the calculations and principles that govern electron arrangements in atoms. Participants engage in clarifying concepts related to the Aufbau principle and the maximum number of electrons in various orbitals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculated Europium's electron configuration as 2 8 18 32 3 and questioned why the accepted configuration is 2 8 18 25 8 2.
  • Another participant suggested using the method that states each orbital can hold a maximum of 2n^2 electrons.
  • There was a proposal that the second last orbital should always have 8 electrons, which was challenged.
  • One participant referenced the Aufbau principle as a necessary guideline for determining electron configurations.
  • There was confusion regarding the distinction between shells and orbitals, with a participant clarifying that shells can contain multiple orbitals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct electron configuration for Europium, and there are competing views on the application of the Aufbau principle and the interpretation of electron arrangements.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of the Aufbau principle, the definitions of shells versus orbitals, and the assumptions underlying the calculations presented.

Mniazi
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I calculated Europium to have a electron configuration of 2 8 18 32 3
and then calculated the chemical formula of Europium Chloride which was EuCl3 which is correct
but why is the real electron configuration of Europium 2 8 18 25 8 2 ?
 
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Mniazi said:
I calculated

How?
 
Using the method that for each orbital n a maximum of 2n^2 electrons can be held.
 
Or is it a rule that the second last orbital should always have 8 electrons?
 
That's not how it works, google for Aufbau principle.
 
Ok, So can you tell mee how one can actually calculate the precise electron configuration of Europium?
 
Have you checked Aufbau principle, or have you just ignored what I wrote in hope I will spoonfeed you?
 
Yes actually I checked the Aufbau principle, so does this mean that the first orbital will have 2 electrons, the second being p having 6, the third d having 10? and an f orbital having 14 max electrons?
 
Mniazi said:
Yes actually I checked the Aufbau principle, so does this mean that the first orbital will have 2 electrons, the second being p having 6, the third d having 10? and an f orbital having 14 max electrons?

Are you sure you don't mistake shell and orbital? Shell can contain several orbitals (K, or first shell, contains only 1s, L, or second, contains both 2s and 2p, d doesn't appear before 3rd, M shell, and so on).
 
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hmmmm, ok let me do some more thinking
 

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