Evaluate sin(2pi/5): Solution Attempted

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The discussion revolves around evaluating sin(2π/5) and its relationship to cos(2π/5), with participants exploring various mathematical approaches to derive the value of sin(2π/5) based on known identities and properties of roots of unity.

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  • Participants discuss using the properties of roots of unity and polynomial equations to derive values for cos(2π/5) and subsequently for sin(2π/5). There are attempts to relate sin(2π/5) to cos(2π/5) through trigonometric identities, and some participants express uncertainty about the methods used to arrive at these values.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various methods being explored to derive sin(2π/5). Some participants have provided insights into their approaches, while others are seeking clarification or alternative methods. There is a general sense of collaboration as participants share their reasoning and question each other's assumptions.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a noted uncertainty regarding the selection of values in the context of solving quadratic equations derived from trigonometric identities.

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Homework Statement


Show that sin(2pi/5) = ((sqrt(10) + (2sqrt(5)))/4)


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i showed that cos(2pi/5) + isin(2pi/5) was a primitive 5th root of unity, and that cos(2pi/5) = (-1 + sqrt(5))/4 but i cannot figure out how to do this one any ideas?
 
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i also can use the fact that x^5 - 1 = 0 and i did a substitution to prove that cos(2pi/5) = (-1 + sqrt(5))/4 using the fact that x^5 - 1 + ( x - 1)(x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1) and x-1 is nonzero so the second equation on rhs has to be zero and then i used a variable substitution but i don't know how to go about proving the sin(2pi/5) part
 
Well

\sin^2 \frac{2\pi}{5} + \cos^2 \frac{2\pi}{5} =1

, obviously.
 
touche
 
How did you get cos(2pi/5) ? I couldn't factor any polynomial.
 
you divide x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 by x^2 because it is non zero this is valid. so we get x^2 + x + 1 + 1/x + 1/x^2. then say y = x + 1/x and plugging this back in you get y^2 + y -1 = 0
then use the quadratic formula to get (-1 + sqrt(5))/2. back to y we know that x = cos(2pi/5) + isin(2pi/5) so add that to x^-1 and you end up getting 2cos(2pi/5) = (-1 + sqrt(5))/2
 
Thanks for the solution. Really nice one.
 
Hi bigubau I used a much more mundane method.

Denoting \frac{2 \pi}{5} = \theta we have,

Re\{(\cos \theta + i \sin \theta)^5\} = 1

Im\{(\cos \theta + i \sin \theta)^5\} = 0

Expanding the second of these two equations and denoting x = \cos \theta (and using \sin^2 \theta = 1 - x^2 where appropriate) gives,

i \sin \theta \, \left[ 5x^4 - 10 x^2 (1-x^2) + (1-x^2)^2 \right] = 0

which reduces to a quadratic in x^2.

16x^4 - 12 x^2 + 1 = 0

Solving gives,

x^2 = \frac{6 \pm 2 \sqrt{5}} {16} = \frac{(\sqrt{5} \pm 1)^2}{4^2}

x = \frac{\sqrt{5} - 1}{4}

BTW. Something a bit weak here, I selected the plus or minus by comparing the floating point approx of the surd with that of the cosine. I couldn't think of a better way but if someone else can then please let me know. :)
 
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