Evaluate the limit as y approaches 4

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit as y approaches 4 for the expression (y - 3√y + 2) / (√y - 2). Participants are exploring the implications of direct substitution and the behavior of the function near the limit point.

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  • Some participants attempt direct substitution and note that it leads to an undefined result. Others suggest using a chart method to evaluate the limit by testing values close to 4. There are discussions about factoring the numerator and rewriting the expression in terms of a new variable, u, to simplify the limit evaluation.

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Participants are actively engaging with different methods to approach the limit, including factoring and variable substitution. There is a mix of understanding regarding the factoring process, with some expressing confusion about how to proceed. Guidance has been offered on potential methods, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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Some participants highlight the importance of understanding the function's behavior near the limit point rather than at the point itself, and there are questions about the clarity of the expression due to formatting issues.

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Homework Statement



Evaluate lim y→4

y-3√y + 2
√y - 2



The Attempt at a Solution



If I plug 4 into Y, my answer is undefined. But if I do the chart method, where I plug in 3.999 and 4.0001 the answer is 1. So I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong.
 
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Try factoring the numerator! The square roots might throw you off a bit, but it's in the same form of a quadratic equation.

You can't plug in 4 directly because the function isn't defined at 4. But limits don't concern themselves with what happens at that point, only what happens very close to that point.
 
hunt3rshadow said:

Homework Statement



Evaluate lim y→4

y-3√y + 2
√y - 2



The Attempt at a Solution



If I plug 4 into Y, my answer is undefined. But if I do the chart method, where I plug in 3.999 and 4.0001 the answer is 1. So I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong.

The numerator is quadratic in form, and can be factored.

Or, you can let u = √y, and rewrite the fraction in terms of u, and factor the numerator. With this change, the limit will be as u → 2.
 
Mark and Scurty, thank you. Mark I get your second method, but for both of you, I don't understand how to factor the numerator. Is it really factor-able? I don't get what value to factor by.
 
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hunt3rshadow said:

Homework Statement



Evaluate lim y→4

y-3√y + 2
√y - 2

The Attempt at a Solution



If I plug 4 into Y, my answer is undefined. But if I do the chart method, where I plug in 3.999 and 4.0001 the answer is 1. So I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong.
Of course 4.001 & 3.999 won't give you exactly 1. They give 0.99975 and 1.00025 respectively.
 
Can you use parenthesis? I can't tell what your sqrt is encompassing.
 
USN2ENG said:
Can you use parenthesis? I can't tell what your sqrt is encompassing.

Just the Y. Nothing else.
 
Parentheses aren't needed. √y is just the square root of y.
 
Can someone tell me how exactly do I factor the numerator?
 
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(√y - ?)(√y - ?)

Like that...
 
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Or if you use my suggestion, you're factoring u2 - 3u + 2.
 
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Mark44 said:
(√y - ?)(√y - ?)

Like that...

I totally forgot factoring square roots. Thanks. Saved me alotta trouble.
 
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