Evaluate the partial derivative of a matrix element

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The discussion focuses on evaluating the partial derivative of a determinant with respect to a matrix element and independent variables. The determinant is defined using the Kronecker delta and involves the coefficient and cofactor matrices. Participants express frustration over a lack of guidance from the professor, who is reportedly dealing with health issues, making it difficult to understand the problem's requirements. Suggestions include differentiating the determinant with respect to the specific matrix element and clarifying variable notation to avoid confusion. The conversation emphasizes the need for clearer direction and examples to aid in solving the problem.
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Homework Statement



A determinant a is defined in the following manner ar * Ak = Σns=1 ars Aks = δkr a , where a=det(aij), ar , Ak , are rows of the coefficient matrix and cofactor matrix respectively. The second term in the equation is the expansion over the columns of both matrices, δkr is the kronecker delta that is 1, when r=k and 0 otherwise. Or ar * Ar = Σns=1 ars Ars = a, where a=det(aij). Evaluate (∂a / ∂art), where art is the coefficient matrix element in row r and column t. Assume all of the elements of the coefficient matrix depend on the independent variables (u1,u2,u3). Find (∂a / ∂ut) for t=1,2,3. Your answer should depend on your results for (∂a / ∂art) above.

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No equations given. We are going over the basics of curvilinear coordinates at the moment and thus I believe tangent vector equations are need to solve the problem which is what I think he wants us to find when he says evaluate (see above). However, the professor is very unhelpful and not willing to really help the students understand exactly what he is after. To be fair he has had some kindof illness that has left him partially disabled.

The Attempt at a Solution


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My attempt at the solution poses a problem. The professor has not given any direction as to how to approach these matrix problems. My only attempt that the solution so far was to use the determinant to find the matrix element art and then from there right a very generic answer for what that vector would be in terms of the independent variables given: art = u1 i + u2 j + u3 k. the problem I am encountering is I just can't seem to figure out if this is the correct route to take. We are using a schaums outline for the book and I haven't found any examples in there to help. Any direction that can be offered would be greatly appreciated.

If i have violated the rules of the forums please reply and let me know that I have so that I can correct myself appropriately. I understand we are supposed to have a valid attempt that the problem before posting. I hope I explained clearly enough above that I have tried to figure out what I need to do.

Thanks!
 
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You have the equation ##\sum_{s=1}^n a_{rs}A^{ks}=\delta_r^ka##. If you set ##k=r## then you get the equation ##a=\sum_{s=1}^n a_{rs}A^{rs}=##. Note that none of the items ##A^{rs}## depend on any coefficient in row ##r##, and only one of the ##a_{rs}## coefficients in that sum will be the item with respect to which you are asked to differentiate: ##a_{rt}##. What do you get when you take the ##\frac{\partial}{\partial a_{rt}}## of the sum?

When you get to the second part, I suggest you take ##\frac{\partial a}{\partial u_j}## rather than ##\frac{\partial a}{\partial u_t}## as ##t## is already used for something completely different, and using the same index for two different things is unnecessarily confusing.
 
andrewkirk said:
You have the equation ##\sum_{s=1}^n a_{rs}A^{ks}=\delta_r^ka##. If you set ##k=r## then you get the equation ##a=\sum_{s=1}^n a_{rs}A^{rs}=##. Note that none of the items ##A^{rs}## depend on any coefficient in row ##r##, and only one of the ##a_{rs}## coefficients in that sum will be the item with respect to which you are asked to differentiate: ##a_{rt}##. What do you get when you take the ##\frac{\partial}{\partial a_{rt}}## of the sum?

When you get to the second part, I suggest you take ##\frac{\partial a}{\partial u_j}## rather than ##\frac{\partial a}{\partial u_t}## as ##t## is already used for something completely different, and using the same index for two different things is unnecessarily confusing.

Thank you! I will try it and see what I come up with!
 

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