Evaluating $f(\alpha)f(\alpha^2)...f(\alpha^{14})$

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the product $f(\alpha)f(\alpha^2)\cdots f(\alpha^{14})$ where $f(x)$ is a polynomial defined as $f(x)=x^{13}+2x^{12}+3x^{11}+\cdots +13x+14$ and $\alpha$ is a complex number representing a 15th root of unity. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and polynomial evaluation.

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  • One participant defines the polynomial $f(x)$ and the complex number $\alpha$ as a 15th root of unity.
  • Another participant derives a more convenient form for $f(x)$ by differentiating the geometric series and manipulating the expression to find $f(x) = \frac{15}{1-x}$ for $x^{15}=1$ and $x \neq 1$.
  • The product of the values of $f(x)$ for $x \in A$ is expressed as $\prod_{x \in A} f(x) = \frac{15^{14}}{\prod_{x \in A}(1-x)}$.
  • A further analysis is provided on the polynomial whose roots are related to $1-x$ and concludes that $\prod_{x \in A}(1-x) = 15$.
  • The final expression for the product is stated as $\prod_{x \in A} f(x) = 15^{13}$.

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There is a clear progression in the discussion with one participant providing a detailed derivation that leads to a specific result. However, there is no explicit agreement or disagreement noted among participants regarding the correctness of the final result.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of roots of unity and the manipulation of polynomial expressions, which may not be universally accepted without further context or justification.

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Let $f(x)=x^{13}+2x^{12}+3x^{11}+\cdots +13x+14$ and $\alpha=\cos\frac{2\pi}{15}+i\sin\frac{2\pi}{15}$. Find the value of $f(\alpha)f(\alpha ^2) \cdots f(\alpha ^{14})$.

(the answer given in my book is 15^(13)).
Please help me! I beg of you...
 
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DrunkenOldFool said:
Let $f(x)=x^{13}+2x^{12}+3x^{11}+\cdots +13x+14$ and $\alpha=\cos\frac{2\pi}{15}+i\sin\frac{2\pi}{15}$. Find the value of $f(\alpha)f(\alpha ^2) \cdots f(\alpha ^{14})$.

(the answer given in my book is 15^(13)).
Please help me! I beg of you...
Firstly, the fourteen numbers in the set $A \overset{\text{def}}{=}\{ \alpha,\alpha ^2, \ldots, \alpha ^{14}\}$ are all roots of the 15th degree equation $x^{15} = 1$, the fifteenth root being $x=1.$

The next step is to find a more convenient form for the function $f(x)$. Start with the fact that $1+z+z^2 + \ldots + z^{14} = \dfrac{1-z^{15}}{1-z}.$ Differentiate, to get $$1+2z+3z^2+\ldots+14z^{13} = \frac{-15z^{14}(1-z)+(1-z^{15})}{(1-z)^2} = \frac{1-15z^{14}+14z^{15}}{(1-z)^2}.$$ Now divide through by $z^{13}$ and let $x = 1/z$, to get $$f(x) = x^{13}+2x^{12}+3x^{11}+\ldots +13x+14 = \frac{x^{15}-15x+14}{(1-x)^2}.$$ If $x^{15}=1$ (but $x\ne1$) then that becomes $f(x) = \dfrac{15(1-x)}{(1-x)^2} = \dfrac{15}{1-x}.$

So we are looking for the product $$\prod_{x\in A}f(x) = \prod_{x\in A}\frac{15}{1-x} = \frac{15^{14}}{\prod_{x\in A}(1-x)}.$$ For $x\in A$, let $w=1-x.$ Then $(1-w)^{15} = x^{15}=1.$ But $(1-w)^{15} = 1-15w+\ldots -w^{15}$, and the equation $(1-w)^{15} =1$ becomes $w^{15} - \ldots +15w = 0$. Divide by $w$ to eliminate the root $w=0$ (which corresponds to $x=1$) and we get $w^{14} - \ldots + 15=0.$ The product of the roots of this equation is 15, in other words $\prod_{x\in A}(1-x)=15.$ Combine that with the previous result to get $\prod_{x\in A}f(x) = 15^{13}.$
 
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