Evaluating Limits Algebraically

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The discussion revolves around evaluating limits algebraically, particularly focusing on expressions involving radicals and their simplifications. Participants are exploring various limit problems, including those with subtraction of radicals and limits involving delta notation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of conjugation to simplify expressions with radicals. There are attempts to clarify the algebraic manipulation of limits involving delta notation. Some participants question the correctness of their expressions and seek guidance on specific steps in the simplification process.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing suggestions and confirming methods for simplification. Some participants express confusion about specific algebraic steps, while others offer alternative approaches and techniques for evaluating limits. There is a mix of interpretations and methods being explored without a clear consensus.

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Some participants mention constraints related to homework rules and express uncertainty about the application of certain algebraic techniques, such as the difference of cubes and the use of conjugates in limit evaluation.

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I've never simplified an expression with a subtraction of radicals in the numerator. I've done a bit of reading and I'm guessing the method to use would be conjugation, but I'm not sure how that would let me solve for x. Thanks for any help.

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{(\sqrt{x+5} - \sqrt{5})}x[/tex]
I'm also having trouble with these two limit estimations. I've worked with [tex]\Delta[/tex] before but never in a simplification.

[tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{2(x + \Delta x)-2x}{\Delta x}[/tex]

[tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{(x + \Delta x^2) - 2(x + \Delta x) + 1 - (x^2 - 2x + 1)}{\Delta x}[/tex]
 
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Multiply both numerator and denominator by ...

[tex](\sqrt{x+5}+\sqrt 5)[/tex]
 
kwikness said:
I've never simplified an expression with a subtraction of radicals in the numerator. I've done a bit of reading and I'm guessing the method to use would be conjugation, but I'm not sure how that would let me solve for x. Thanks for any help.

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{(\sqrt{x+5} - \sqrt{5})}x[/tex]
As you suggested and rocophysics confirmed, multiply both numerator and denominator by the conjugate.



I'm also having trouble with these two limit estimations. I've worked with [tex]\Delta[/tex] before but never in a simplification.

[tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{2(x + \Delta x)-2x}{\Delta x}[/tex]
Go ahead and do the algebra! This is
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{2x+ 2\Delta x- 2x}{\Delta x}= \lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{2\Delta x}{\Delta x}[/itex]<br /> What is the limit of that? <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> [tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{(x + \Delta x^2) - 2(x + \Delta x) + 1 - (x^2 - 2x + 1)}{\Delta x}[/tex] </div> </div> </blockquote> First, you have that typed wrong: it should be [itex](x+ \Delta x)^2[/itex], not [itex](x+ \Delta x^2)[/itex]!<br /> Again, just do the algebra:<br /> [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{x^2+ 2x\Delta x+ \Delta x^2- 2x- \Delta x+ 1- x^2+ 2x- 1}{\Delta x}[/tex]<br /> [tex]= \lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{2x\Delta x+ \Delta x^2k}{\Delta x}[/tex]<br /> What is the limit of that?[/tex]
 
Thanks very much for your help Ivy.

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I can get up to step 4, but how do I go from 4 -> 5? What rule/formula is being used?
 
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multiply by sqrt(5)/sqrt(5)
 
ircdan said:
multiply by sqrt(5)/sqrt(5)

Wouldn't that leave me with [tex]\frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}[/tex]? Could you be a bit more specific?
 
kwikness said:
Wouldn't that leave me with [tex]\frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}[/tex]? Could you be a bit more specific?

[tex]2\sqrt{5} \times \sqrt{5}=2 (\sqrt{5})^2=2 (5) = 10[/tex]
 
Gotchya, I was trying to cancel it out rather than square it. Thanks for the help.
 
To expand on this topic...
Ive not seen many examples of evaluating limits algebraically where there are indexes in the root...for example

[tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow 64} \frac{\sqrt{x} - 8}{\sqrt[3]{x}-4}[/tex]

...so...are there any good techniques or method to solve this, since you can't use the conjugate?

thanks in advance...
 
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[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 64} \frac{\sqrt{x} - 8}{\sqrt[3]{x}-4} = \lim_{x\rightarrow 64} \frac{(x^{1/6} - 2)(x^{1/3} + 2x^{1/6} + 4)}{(x^{1/6} - 2)(x^{1/6} + 2)} = \lim_{x\rightarrow 64} \frac{x^{1/3} + 2x^{1/6} +4}{x^{1/6} +2}[/tex].

Now you can evaluate the limit by substituting 64 for x.
 
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Thanks for the reply...thats much faster it seems than the way I came up with...even though the principles are the same:

I take the LCM of the exponents
and apply a substitution variable


[tex] a^6 = 1[/tex]

which leads to...

[tex] <br /> \lim_{a\rightarrow 1} \frac{\sqrt{a^6} - 8}{\sqrt[3]{a^6}-4}<br /> [/tex]

Then it kinda becomes a binomial theorem expansion problem:

[tex] <br /> \lim_{a\rightarrow 1} \frac{a^3 - 8}{a^2 - 4}<br /> [/tex]

this seems drawn out compared to your way... sorry for the elementary question but how did you decompose the radicals and get the equation

[tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow 64} \frac{(x^{1/6} - 2)(x^{1/3} + 2x^{1/6} + 4)}{(x^{1/6} - 2)(x^{1/6} + 2)}[/tex]

to simplify to substitute 64 for x?

Again, thanks for the reply!
 
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I used a difference of cubes:

[tex]a^3 - b^3 = (a - b)(a^2 + ab + b^2)[/tex]
 
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I showed your method for solving that problem to my instructor...she responded by giving me a problem that I am finding rather difficult to implement your method.
Do you think you could help?
Same type of problem, just bigger numbers and no special binomials I could find:

[tex] <br /> \lim_{x\rightarrow 4095} \frac{\sqrt{x+1}- 4\sqrt[3]{x+1}}{\sqrt[4]{x+1}-8}<br /> [/tex]

Thanks again.
 

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