Evaluating Limits: How Do I Substitute Infinity Into the Equation?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a limit involving the expression \(\lim_{n \to \infty} 2\pi r + 2nR\sin \frac{\pi}{n}\). Participants are exploring the appropriate methods for handling limits, particularly in the context of substituting infinity into the equation.

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  • Participants discuss whether direct substitution of infinity is valid in this context and question the implications of treating constants and variable terms differently within the limit. There are varying interpretations of the limit's behavior as \(n\) approaches infinity.

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Some participants offer differing perspectives on the limit's evaluation, with one suggesting that the limit approaches \(2\pi r\), while others argue for a different outcome. The conversation reflects an ongoing exploration of the mathematical reasoning behind the limit, with no clear consensus reached.

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There is a mention of the participants' varying levels of familiarity with limits, and some express uncertainty about the correctness of their statements. The original poster indicates they have not yet covered limits in class, which may influence their understanding and approach.

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Hi. We havnt started limits in class yet, but I've come across one, which i need to evaluate.

[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2\pi r + 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n}[/tex]

For a limit like that, can i just substitute infinity into the equation? Or is there some rule against that? If so, would i be right in saying:

[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2\pi r + 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n} = 2\pi r[/tex]

Thanks for the help.
Dan.
 
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Well sir dango

What your saying to me seams perfectly correct, however, limits are not my specialties. For the limit which you defined, that is the correct answer

unique_pavadrin

EDIT: dear sir dango what i had previously sated is incorrect, as n approaches n infinity, the function appraocd 2(pi)(r+R)
 
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[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2\pi r + 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n} = 2\pi r[/tex]

2pi r is a constant, take out of the limit. We have

[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n} = 2\pi r[/tex]

Remember for small x, sin x=x? You can see that from the fact the tangent at x=0 is y=x (on the sine curve). So as n gets large, pi/n gets small.

The n's cancel so we get that limit is equal to 2Rpi, so the solution unique_pavadrin posted is correct.
 
Gib Z said:
[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2\pi r + 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n} = 2\pi r[/tex]

2pi r is a constant, take out of the limit. We have

[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n} = 2\pi r[/tex]

Remember for small x, sin x=x? You can see that from the fact the tangent at x=0 is y=x (on the sine curve). So as n gets large, pi/n gets small.

The n's cancel so we get that limit is equal to 2Rpi, so the solution unique_pavadrin posted is correct.

Ahh thanks very much for that. That answer is exactly what I am after, considering the context I am using the equation in :biggrin:
 
Gib Z said:
[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2\pi r + 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n} = 2\pi r[/tex]

2pi r is a constant, take out of the limit. We have

[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n} = 2\pi r[/tex]
No, you have cancel the 2 [itex]2\pir[/itex] terms:
[tex] \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } 2nR\sin \frac{\pi }{n} = 0[/tex][/quote]
Now what you say further makes sense.

Remember for small x, sin x=x? You can see that from the fact the tangent at x=0 is y=x (on the sine curve). So as n gets large, pi/n gets small.

The n's cancel so we get that limit is equal to 2Rpi, so the solution unique_pavadrin posted is correct.
 

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