Evaluation of an Integral (using contours or otherwise)

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The discussion centers around the evaluation of the integral \int_{0}^\infty \frac{x^3}{e^x-1} \text{d}x, with participants exploring various methods, including complex analysis and elementary approaches. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and integration techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the integral might be best handled using complex analysis and contour integration, but notes the lack of complex analysis knowledge among the students involved.
  • Another participant proposes rewriting the integral using a binomial series approach, leading to a sum that can be evaluated term by term.
  • A later reply acknowledges the initial difficulty with convergence when interpreting \frac{1}{e^x-1} as a geometric series, but expresses satisfaction with the proposed rearrangement that resolves the issue.
  • Another participant introduces a general formula for integration by parts and connects it to the Riemann Zeta Function, suggesting a relationship between the integral and the zeta function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying methods for approaching the integral, with some finding success in the proposed rearrangement while others introduce additional formulas. There is no consensus on a single method or resolution of the integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention challenges with convergence and the justification for integrating term by term, indicating potential limitations in the approaches discussed.

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Hello everyone - this is my first post here since the move. I had to deal with a few engineering students yesterday; they asked me how to exactly evaluate the integral

[math]\int_{0}^\infty \frac{x^3}{e^x-1} \text{d}x[/math]

It looked like this integral would best be handled by treating it as complex-valued and setting up a contour so that the complex parts dropped out. However, the students did not know any complex analysis and were looking for a more elementary approach. It wasn't obvious how to do it using real integrals (and I tried to use tricks as in the evaluation of [math]\int_{-\infty}^\infty e^x \text{d}x[/math]). I also discussed this with another graduate student, and we were actually even unable to select a decent contour to take the integral. (Though we did put it into Mathematica which computed [math]\frac{\pi^4}{15}[/math].) We're basically baffled. I was hoping to find some advice about this integral here. Any help would be appreciated!
 
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roninpro said:
Hello everyone - this is my first post here since the move. I had to deal with a few engineering students yesterday; they asked me how to exactly evaluate the integral

[math]\int_{0}^\infty \frac{x^3}{e^x-1} \text{d}x[/math]

It looked like this integral would best be handled by treating it as complex-valued and setting up a contour so that the complex parts dropped out. However, the students did not know any complex analysis and were looking for a more elementary approach. It wasn't obvious how to do it using real integrals (and I tried to use tricks as in the evaluation of [math]\int_{-\infty}^\infty e^x \text{d}x[/math]). I also discussed this with another graduate student, and we were actually even unable to select a decent contour to take the integral. (Though we did put it into Mathematica which computed [math]\frac{\pi^4}{15}[/math].) We're basically baffled. I was hoping to find some advice about this integral here. Any help would be appreciated!
Write it as $\displaystyle\int_{0}^\infty \frac{x^3}{e^x-1} \,dx = \int_{0}^\infty \frac{x^3}{e^x(1-e^{-x})}\,dx = \int_{0}^\infty x^3e^{-x}\sum_{n=0}^\infty e^{-nx}\,dx$ (binomial series). Then (if you can justify integrating term by term) this is equal to $\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty \int_{0}^\infty x^3e^{-nx}\,dx.$

Integrate by parts several times to find that $\displaystyle \int_0^\infty x^3e^{-nx}\,dx = \frac 6{n^4}.$ The result then follows from the fact that $\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac1{n^4} = \frac{\pi^4}{90}.$
 
We actually originally tried to interpret the term [math]\frac{1}{e^x-1}[/math] as a geometric series, but convergence was an issue. Your rearrangement fixes that issue. Thanks very much, this works for me!
 
With systematic application of integration by part You arrive to the general formula...

$\displaystyle \int t^{m}\ \ln ^{n} t\ dt = n!\ t^{m+1}\ \sum_{k=0}^{n}\frac{(-1)^{k}\ \ln^{n-k} t}{(m+1)^{k}\ (n-k)!} +c$ (1)

... and from (1) with simple steps...

$\displaystyle \zeta(n)= \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{k^{n}}= \frac{(-1)^{n-1}}{(n-1)!} \int_{0}^{1} \frac{\ln^{n-1} t}{1-t}\ dt$ (2)

... where $\zeta(*)$ is the so called 'Riemann Zeta Function' and $n>1$. Setting in (2) $\ln t=x$ You obtain the equivalent relation...

$\displaystyle \zeta(n)= \frac{1}{(n-1)!} \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{x^{n-1}}{e^{x}-1}\ dx$ (3)

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 

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