Is the Integral Finite for $n$ Fixed?

In summary, we use the hint provided to derive an upper bound for the given integral and show that it is finite for a fixed value of $n$. However, taking the limit as $n$ approaches infinity does not allow us to deduce anything about the convergence of the integral.
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evinda
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Let $\lambda$ be a positive number and $n$ a natural number. I want to show that

$$\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} dx<+\infty.$$

There is the following hint: $e^{\lambda x^2} \geq \frac{1}{n!}(\lambda x^2)^n$, thus $x^{2n} e^{-\lambda x^2}\leq \frac{n!}{\lambda^n}$.I have done the following:We have that $$e^{2 \lambda x^2} \geq \frac{(2 \lambda x^2)^n}{n!}.$$

Then

$$e^{-2 \lambda x^2} \leq \frac{n!}{(2 \lambda x^2)^n} \Rightarrow x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} \leq \frac{n!}{2^n \lambda^n}$$But the integral $\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \frac{n!}{2^n \lambda^n} dx$ isn't finite. Is it?

So have I done something wrong? Or can we not use the hint? (Thinking)
 
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Hi evinda,

evinda said:
But the integral $\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \frac{n!}{2^n \lambda^n} dx$ isn't finite. Is it?

This improper integral does not exist, because, by the definition of $\displaystyle\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\frac{n!}{2^n \lambda^n}\,dx,$ the two separate integrals $\displaystyle\int_{c}^{\infty}\frac{n!}{2^n \lambda^n}\,dx$ and $\displaystyle\int_{-\infty}^{c}\frac{n!}{2^n \lambda^n}\,dx$ must both exist/converge (Note: The value of $c$ can be fixed arbitrarily, though typically it is taken to be zero).

evinda said:
There is the following hint: $e^{\lambda x^2} \geq \frac{1}{n!}(\lambda x^2)^n$, thus $x^{2n} e^{-\lambda x^2}\leq \frac{n!}{\lambda^n}$.I have done the following:We have that $$e^{2 \lambda x^2} \geq \frac{(2 \lambda x^2)^n}{n!}.$$

Then

$$e^{-2 \lambda x^2} \leq \frac{n!}{(2 \lambda x^2)^n} \Rightarrow x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} \leq \frac{n!}{2^n \lambda^n}$$

So have I done something wrong? Or can we not use the hint? (Thinking)

You didn't do anything wrong, your work is reasonably thought out. It is commonplace when working in analysis to derive bounds that are not of the best utility for the problem at hand. I would suggest going back to the inequality $x^{2n} e^{-\lambda x^2}\leq \frac{n!}{\lambda^n}$ and multiplying both sides by $e^{-\lambda x^{2}}$ and see what you can do from there.
 
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Ok, so then we have that $x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} \leq \frac{n!}{\lambda^n} e^{-\lambda x^2}$.

Thus, $\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} dx \leq \frac{n!}{\lambda^n} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\lambda x^2} dx=\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{\lambda}} \frac{n!}{\lambda^n}$.

And do we check what happens when $n \to +\infty$ at the last quantity that we got? Or is it finite since it doesn't depend on $x$ ? (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
Ok, so then we have that $x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} \leq \frac{n!}{\lambda^n} e^{-\lambda x^2}$.

Thus, $\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} dx \leq \frac{n!}{\lambda^n} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\lambda x^2} dx=\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{\lambda}} \frac{n!}{\lambda^n}$.

This is correct, well done!

evinda said:
And do we check what happens when $n \to +\infty$ at the last quantity that we got? Or is it finite since it doesn't depend on $x$ ? (Thinking)

Good question. We were asked to show that for $n$ fixed the integral is finite, which you have done. If you were to take the limit as $n\rightarrow \infty$, however, you would find that the bounds for the sequence of integral values corresponding to $n=1, 2, 3,\ldots$ goes to infinity (because factorials grow more rapidly than exponentials). Because we are dealing with upper bounds, we cannot deduce anything about the limit
$$\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} dx$$
from this information alone.
 
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GJA said:
This is correct, well done!
Good question. We were asked to show that for $n$ fixed the integral is finite, which you have done. If you were to take the limit as $n\rightarrow \infty$, however, you would find that the bounds for the sequence of integral values corresponding to $n=1, 2, 3,\ldots$ goes to infinity (because factorials grow more rapidly than exponentials). Because we are dealing with upper bounds, we cannot deduce anything about the limit
$$\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}x^{2n} e^{-2 \lambda x^2} dx$$
from this information alone.

I see... thanks a lot! (Smile)
 

1. How do you show that an integral is finite?

To show that an integral is finite, you need to determine if the function being integrated is bounded on the interval of integration. This means that the function does not have any extreme values (such as infinity) on the interval and stays within a specific range of values. If the function is bounded, the integral will be finite.

2. What is the significance of a finite integral?

A finite integral is significant because it means that the function being integrated does not have any extreme values on the interval and the area under the curve is well-defined. This allows for the use of integration techniques to calculate the exact value of the integral, which can be useful in many areas of science and engineering.

3. Can an integral be both finite and infinite?

No, an integral can only be either finite or infinite. If the function being integrated is bounded on the interval, the integral will be finite. However, if the function has extreme values on the interval (such as infinity), the integral will be infinite.

4. How does the type of integration affect the finiteness of an integral?

The type of integration, whether it is definite or indefinite, does not affect the finiteness of an integral. The finiteness of an integral is solely determined by the function being integrated and whether it is bounded on the interval of integration.

5. Are there any specific techniques to show that an integral is finite?

Yes, there are several techniques that can be used to show that an integral is finite. One common technique is to use the comparison test, where the function being integrated is compared to a known bounded function. Another technique is to use the limit comparison test, where the limit of the function is compared to the limit of a known bounded function. Additionally, techniques such as integration by parts and substitution can also be used to show the finiteness of an integral.

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