Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)

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In summary: That makes sense.In summary, the flaw in this proof lies in the fact that it is not possible to construct distinct subsets with a common element when the group size is only 2, making it impossible to prove that everyone in the group has the same hair color. This flaw is present in both the case 1 and case 2 arguments. Therefore, the statement that "for any group of people, everyone has the same hair color" cannot be proven using mathematical induction.
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Homework Statement


In any group of (n) people, if one person has brown hair, then everyone has the same hair color.

Suppose: For any group of people everyone has the same hair color.

Case 1: In any group of 1 person, everyone has the same hair color.

Case 2:
Now, with a group of k+1 people, remove the first person (A) from it.
This yields a group that has k people and everyone in this group has the same color hair particularly the second person (B) and third person (C).
Now, consider the group of k+1 and remove only the second person (B) from it. This yields a group of k again with all having the same hair color particularly A & C.

Question: Where is the flaw?


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Mathematical Induction


The Attempt at a Solution



I believe the flaw in this type of proof is with the case 1 statement. This flaw then ripples down the rest of the proof as well.

The flaw specifically is the fact that they are looking at a group of one person as the beginning condition. So, if we were to say that we wanted to start at P(n) with n being two instead of one, then we cannot prove that statement. In essence, P(1) holds, but if you plug in P(2) or P(3) you cannot say definitively that they all share the same hair color.

That's the only thing I can think of since mathematical induction in my mind is sort of like an assembly line of sorts. Toward the end everything seems fine, but in the beginning it seems just off slightly.



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The case 1 argument is OK. However, consider the case in which the group consists of two people. See what happens to the case 2 argument if you try to apply it there.

Petek
 
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I first heard this as the "horse of a different color" problem- to show why an induction proof that "all horses are of same color" was invalid. The problem, is NOT in the first statement because if you have a set with one member, it certainly is true that any member of that set is of the same color! The answer is exactly as Petek say- you cannot make the jump from 1 to 2 because if you have a set of two, you cannot construct distinct subsets containing a common element. I think that's pretty much what you said but that involves the "induction hypothesis", the second part not the first.
 
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Ahh, so in this case in point there was simply no intersection between the set with A being removed and the set with B being removed?
 

What is the "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)"?

The "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)" is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone assumes that because a group of people have a shared trait or characteristic, that trait or characteristic must apply to every individual within the group. This assumption is based on limited or incomplete evidence and can lead to incorrect conclusions.

How does the "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)" occur?

The "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)" usually occurs when people make generalizations or assumptions based on their personal experiences or observations. They may see a pattern among a few individuals and assume that it applies to everyone in a larger group. This can also happen when someone relies on stereotypes or cultural norms to make assumptions about a group of people.

What are some common examples of the "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)"?

One common example of the "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)" is the belief that all members of a certain race or ethnicity share the same characteristics. For example, assuming that all Asian people are good at math or that all Black people are athletic. Another example is assuming that because a few people from a certain country have a certain personality trait, all people from that country must possess that trait.

How can the "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)" be harmful?

The "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)" can be harmful because it can lead to stereotypes, discrimination, and prejudice. It can also perpetuate harmful beliefs and behaviors towards certain groups of people. Additionally, relying on this fallacy can prevent individuals from seeing people as individuals with unique traits and experiences.

How can the "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)" be avoided?

To avoid the "Everyone has same (Induction Fallacy)," it is important to recognize that individuals within a group can have different traits and experiences. It is also important to gather diverse and comprehensive evidence before making any assumptions about a group. It can also be helpful to challenge stereotypes and preconceived notions and to approach each individual with an open mind and without making assumptions based on group characteristics.

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