Evolution: Is it Real? Answers from Biologists

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The discussion centers on the evolution of humans and other species, with a clear divide between those who support evolutionary theory and those who hold creationist beliefs. The scientific consensus is that humans evolved from a common ancestor shared with apes, supported by extensive fossil records, genetic similarities, and observable evolutionary processes. Participants emphasize that evolution is a well-substantiated scientific theory, distinct from mere belief, and is backed by substantial evidence across various scientific fields. Critics of evolution often argue from a religious perspective, asserting that humans are unique creations, which leads to debates about the interpretation of scientific terms like "theory." The conversation also touches on the nature of scientific inquiry, the importance of evidence, and the distinction between evolution and abiogenesis. Ultimately, the dialogue highlights the ongoing tension between scientific understanding and personal beliefs regarding the origins of life.
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Strange how some get so *****y...
 
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kirkmcloren said:
I say you have no proof.

What do you make of the changes in the fossil record through time?

How about the genetic markers that corroborate the geographic and temporal evolutionary history displayed by the fossil record?

How about the directly observed instances of speciation?

How about the observed instances of genetic mutatations that resulted in non-detrimental effects?
 
  • #123
kirkmcloren said:
You have never seen a transitional specie

We have many fossil examples of transitional forms.

and natural selection involves reduction of diversity from the parent--not evolution.

That too is PART of evolution. Some mechanisms increase diversity (e.g., recombination, mutation, gene flow) whereas other mechanisms decrease diversity.

Can you prove life on Earth wasn't put here by the mother ship?

You ask to "prove the negative". Regardless, we can prove that life has the capacity to change and we can provide evidence that it has changed in the past. On the other hand, there is no scientific evidence to indicate that life was placed here by an alien spaceship.
 
  • #124
I heard part of Alistair Begg's message on the 'Truth for Life' program on Christian radio this morning. His theme was that male and female roles have gotten all mixed up in the last 150 years. He blames the teaching of evolution, which to him is a pack of lies. His one-sentence summary of evolution was [and I am quoting him exactly]: "DNA met DNA in a pile of sludge."

CAN SOMEBODY--I SAY--CAN SOMEBODY SHOUT OUT "STRAW MAN ARGUMENT" FOR ME?
 
  • #125
You think that's bad? A pentecostal told me that evolution says "two rocks collided, amoebas came out and that's where humans came from"
 
  • #126
I invented evolution!
 
  • #127
"DNA met DNA in a pile of sludge."
"two rocks collided, amoebas came out and that's where humans came from"

Excellent examples why a strong science program is important for public schools.
 
  • #128
Phobos said:
Excellent examples why a strong science program is important for public schools.

Agreed. It kills me when uneducated yokels spout off at how scientists are always wrong, lie, etc. Meanwhile, they can't explain a single phenomenom except by crediting their appropriate paranormal entity.
 

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