Exact Differential Equations: Solving for F(t,y)

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves solving an exact differential equation of the form (28y6 - 24e-6y)(sqrt(1-t4))dy -(10t)dt =0, with the goal of expressing it as a function F(t,y)=0.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the identification of components N and M, the verification of exactness through partial derivatives, and the integration process to find k(y). There are questions about the correctness of the original problem setup and the assumptions regarding exactness.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the original poster's assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration process and the treatment of variables.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the definitions of M and N, and whether the problem has been accurately transcribed. The original poster expresses difficulty in determining k(y) and notes complications arising during integration.

jumbogala
Messages
414
Reaction score
4

Homework Statement


(28y6 - 24e-6y)(sqrt(1-t4))dy -(10t)dt =0

Come up with a solution to this equation in the form of a function F(t,y)=0.


Homework Equations


dF/ dy = N
dF / dt = M

Note: when I write d it's supposed to be a partial derivative.

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, so I called the part in front of the dy 'N' and the part in front of the dt 'M'. Then I took dM/dy and dN/dt to make sure they're equal. They are, so this equation is exact.

F(t,y) = integral of (-10t)dt = -5t2 + k(y)

Now, take the partial derivative of F(t,y) with respect to y. This gives -5t2y + k`(y). This equal to N.

So -5t2y + k`(y) = (28y6 - 24e-6y)(sqrt(1-t4))

There's where I get stuck. I need to figure out what k(y) is, but I have nooo idea how to do that. I tried moving everything over to the right side except k`(y) and integrating, but the integral got really complicated =\
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Remember that you have two variables so if you integrate with respect to one, you hold the other constant. For example if you integrate with respect to y, then you would treat t as a constant.
 
Hmm, okay. I think I see where I went wrong.

F = integral of M dt = -5t^2 + k(y)

Now, take the partial derivative of F with respect to y. This gives k`(y).

So k`(y) = (28y^6 - 24e^(-6y))(sqrt(1-t^4))

So to find k(y), I integrated the right hand side of the above equation with respect to y. Then I got k(y) = (sqrt(1-t^4))(4y^7 + 4e^(-6y)).

But my answer was still wrong...
 
Last edited:
Why is it that you think this differential equation is exact? I'm not getting that at all. Based on your definitions for M and N,
[tex]\frac{\partial M}{\partial y} = 0[/tex]
and
[tex]\frac{\partial N}{\partial t} = (28y^6 - 24e^{-6y})(1/2)(1 - t^4)^{-1/2}(-4t^3)[/tex]
Are you sure you have written the problem down correctly?
 

Similar threads

Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
12
Views
2K