Exam Failure: Coping with Setbacks and Learning from Mistakes

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The discussion revolves around coping with exam failures, particularly in mathematics and statistics, and the emotional and practical implications of such setbacks. Participants share personal experiences, strategies for improvement, and reflections on the nature of failure in academic settings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses feelings of failure after potentially failing a mathematical statistics exam despite significant effort and understanding of the material.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of being a "failure," highlighting the participant's coding skills and suggesting that success in one area does not negate struggles in another.
  • A different participant shares their own experience of failing a Linear Algebra exam but later improving and passing the course, offering it as a source of inspiration.
  • One participant discusses the common experience of blanking on test problems despite having studied similar problems, suggesting that this may stem from ineffective study techniques.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of recognizing problem types and techniques during exams, advocating for improved study methods rather than increased study time.
  • A participant recounts a personal experience of performing poorly on an exam but later excelling in related subjects, encouraging others not to be discouraged by one bad exam.
  • One participant advises seeking feedback from lecturers to understand what went wrong and how to improve for future assessments.

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Participants generally agree on the emotional impact of exam failures and the importance of learning from these experiences. However, there are differing views on the nature of failure and the best approaches to studying and coping with setbacks.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific study techniques and personal anecdotes, but there is no consensus on the most effective study methods or coping strategies. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and opinions without resolving the complexities of academic performance and personal expectations.

Who May Find This Useful

Students facing academic challenges, individuals interested in personal development through setbacks, and those seeking strategies for effective studying and coping with failure may find this discussion relevant.

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I think I just failed an exam :(

Ok so I am realistic about my life. I know I'm pretty much a failure.

Anyway I had a lot of luck about 4 years ago and got into a great job as a data analyst. It suits me 100% at this stage as I get to do things which interest me, write code ect, basically I really like doing technical things (I should have been an electrician or some sort of technician but that is a different story). I recently cut one guys code down from TEN THOUSAND lines to about 20. And cut a 9 hour process down to about a minute and a half.

So I'm incredibly happy, get paid to do something I enjoy - which is writing code. I wanted to further my education for some silly reason, so I've been studying mathematics and statistics and taking programming units (I've done 5 out of 8 units now though a university which has online study modes) as I figure it would be more related to my role and the programming skills will allow me to transition to a more programming orientated role without having to start a new career.

I studied my *** off every day after work and I think I think I just failed the exam for my third mathematical statistics unit.

Why ? A huge mental block and I just couldn't remember all of the topics on the exam. This frigging thing went on forever. Most of the stuff is trivial - I understand it all completely (more or less) but just can't remember it all !

I'm not going to get a great mark or I may not even pass, but I feel like I have learned so much that it is all worth while.

Has anyone else experienced failure on an exam before ?

Is working full time a reasonable excuse I can make to myself for failing and I'll just have to study harder next time ?

PS. I'm obviously not some genius mathematician like you lot ! I'm just doing out of interest and to complement my work experience (i'm taking programming units too) and to allow me to teach mathematics in high school as a sort of back up career.
 
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RufusDawes said:
Ok so I am realistic about my life. I know I'm pretty much a failure.

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RufusDawes said:
Anyway I had a lot of luck about 4 years ago and got into a great job as a data analyst. It suits me 100% at this stage as I get to do things which interest me, write code ect, basically I really like doing technical things (I should have been an electrician or some sort of technician but that is a different story). I recently cut one guys code down from TEN THOUSAND lines to about 20. And cut a 9 hour process down to about a minute and a half.

does not compute. Obviously you have tremendous skill in coding if you can cut someone's code from ten thousand lines to about 20. It always takes time and practice to learn a new discipline (albeit this is not completely new for you), but hey, you already know all about debugging codes and rectifying errors. This is pretty much the same thing. Keep working hard and math will become easy. It's just practice more than innate talent. You already feel like you have learned a lot and that's great! Now just practice patiently!

Good Luck :)

SolsticeFire
 


I failed a Linear Algebra exam horribly once (12%), I managed to trooper through that course and get 60% on the second midterm and final and pass my course with a (51%). If that's any consolation as a turn around story, to inspire you. Hehe. :)
 


I've never had what I'd call a catastrophic failure on a test that I studied hard for, but I know the feeling of understanding how to do a problem and then blanking on a test.

It's happened to me quite a few times where I'll see a test problem, remember that I did a very similar problem while studying or on a homework, but not be able to remember exactly how. In hindsight, I realized that this actually hurt me because I ended up trying to recall that specific practice problem and struggling to picture exactly how the equations looked, etc. instead of just focusing on the actual test problem.

This is especially detrimental on math tests, where two problems are seldom exactly alike. I think if you studied hard but still failed the test, you just need to revaluate how you study.

For instance, it usually helps me to, in addition to doing practice problems, write down all the "hints" that should tip me off about what approach to take on a test problem, what formulas to use, etc. If you've done your homework and studied with practice problems, the thing that will really help you get better grades is simply being able to recognize what technique/formula to use. As soon as you see the problem, you want to be able to recognize what they're asking for, and how you could find it.

I also totally agree with SolsticeFire; math just takes practice, and I'm sure you have the mental ability to succeed in it. If you're already studying every night, you don't need to study more, you just need to study better. Try doing the test material practice problems in a random order, and get to the point where you can recognize them immediately and almost do them qualitatively in your head, before you even plug in the numbers. Studying this way, and physically righting down the situations where I would use a given method, definitely helped me increase my mathematics studying efficiency, and test performance.

I hope that helps, and best of luck. Don't be discouraged by one bad test, just correct your studying technique so you don't have the same problems next time.
 


I went nagasaki on the third exam of my sophomore-level dynamics class. I walked in and knew none of the formulas and had no time to rederive them. Not only did I come out of the class with a B- (perhaps thanks to the fact that I got some of the highest grades in the class on the other two exams), but orbital mechanics is currently my best subject (which is a direct continuation of dynamics). Don't sweat a bad exam. It doesn't mean anything.

Also, anyone who thinks they're a "failure" because of one bad exam needs to reexamine what they consider "failure".
 


Hey RufusDawes.

I'd recommend a simple approach which is to just decide whether you want to move on or stick with it and then if you decide to stick with it, to use the experience and figure out how you can learn from what went wrong the first time.

Talk to your lecturer and get their advice on what went wrong: ask them flat out if they think you can pass next time and under what circumstances (hopefully being a lecturer/whatever they should know this).
 

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