Discussion Overview
The discussion centers on the role and future of qualifying exams in PhD programs, particularly in physics, with participants exploring their necessity, implications for diversity, and potential alternatives if they are phased out. The conversation includes perspectives from both US and European contexts, as well as comparisons to other fields such as statistics and mathematics.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
Main Points Raised
- Some participants note that qualifying exams cover a broad range of physics topics and are a requirement for obtaining a PhD in the US and some Canadian universities.
- Others express surprise at the notion that many programs are eliminating qualifying exams, citing their continued presence in fields like statistics and mathematics.
- Several participants discuss the historical context of qualifying exams, including their role in managing student numbers and the perceived abuse of the system.
- Concerns are raised about the impact of eliminating qualifying exams on diversity, with some arguing that it could be a barrier while others challenge this notion.
- Some participants argue that qualifying exams ensure a command of basic material and express opposition to their removal, while others question the fairness of the exams given varying student backgrounds.
- There is speculation about what could replace qualifying exams, with some suggesting that final exams in core classes might serve a similar purpose, while others argue that nothing may take their place if pass rates are high.
- Participants discuss the challenges of preparing for qualifying exams within a limited timeframe, highlighting the stress and pressure associated with them.
- Some mention the differences between written and oral components of qualifying exams, noting variability in the types of questions asked by professors.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a range of views on the necessity and fairness of qualifying exams, with no consensus reached on whether they should be retained or eliminated. Disagreement exists regarding their impact on diversity and the effectiveness of potential alternatives.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight the challenges associated with qualifying exams, including the time constraints and varying levels of preparedness among students. The discussion also touches on the implications of removing such exams on the quality of graduate students.