Gopal Mailpalli
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Can you list few examples.
The discussion revolves around examples of creative problem-solving in physics, particularly focusing on the concepts of velocity and acceleration. Participants engage in a self-study context, exploring definitions and mathematical relationships between these concepts.
Participants express some agreement on the definitions of velocity and acceleration, but there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of motion at extreme positions, particularly concerning the behavior of velocity and acceleration at those points.
Participants' understanding of the concepts appears to depend on their interpretations of mathematical derivatives and their implications in physical motion, which may not be fully resolved in the discussion.
Dale said:Is this homework?
Dale said:Ok, you should still show some effort and thought about it on your own. How are velocity and acceleration defined?
Dale said:And what is velocity?
And how are those points called where the 1st derivative is zero, but the 2nd isn't.Gopal Mailpalli said:Velocity is the first derivative of position with respect to time, where as acceleration is the second derivative of position.
Perfect. So if, for example, your position is ##x=-t^2+3t+5##, then what is your velocity and acceleration?Gopal Mailpalli said:Velocity is the first derivative of position with respect to time, where as acceleration is the second derivative of position.
Dale said:Perfect. So if, for example, your position is ##x=-t^2+3t+5##, then what is your velocity and acceleration?
A.T. said:And how are those points called where the 1st derivative is zero, but the 2nd isn't.
So the answer to your original question is...?Gopal Mailpalli said:Velocity is -2t + 3 and acceleration is -2, with its respective units.
Correct. So is there any t for which v=0? What is the acceleration at that time?Gopal Mailpalli said:Velocity is -2t + 3 and acceleration is -2, with its respective units.
mathman said:Think of the motion of a pendulum.
Dale said:Correct. So is there any t for which v=0? What is the acceleration at that time?
Also, plot the position as a function of time. Do you notice anything special about the time you found above?
Velocity doesn't remain zero, because acceleration is not zero. Velocity is instantaneously zero.Gopal Mailpalli said:Thank you, i understood that at extreme positions, the velocity remains zero
The velocity changes its sign, not the acceleration.Gopal Mailpalli said:but acceleration is non-zero (changes its sign)