Excellence On Obscure Instruments

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The discussion revolves around various obscure musical instruments, exploring their uniqueness, cultural significance, and personal anecdotes related to their use. Participants share a range of instruments, from traditional to modern, and engage in light-hearted commentary about their characteristics and experiences.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention instruments like the kazoo, keytar, and harpiji as examples of obscurity.
  • Others introduce the triple neck guitar and otamatone, noting their presence in niche musical contexts.
  • One participant highlights the otamatone's heavy metal versions and the existence of an expensive otamatone jumbo.
  • The telephone line simulator and dan bau are also suggested as obscure instruments.
  • Discussion includes humorous takes on instruments, such as the floppy drive array and the singing frog in a song.
  • Several participants express curiosity about the market for vintage synthesizers, particularly the Moog and Yamaha CS-80, discussing their rarity and pricing.
  • There are mentions of the Sequential Circuits Prophet-5 and its historical context in the music industry.
  • Some participants share personal experiences with instruments, such as the Infinite Guitar and eBow, discussing their unique sound capabilities.
  • Bagpipes are brought up, with differing opinions on their obscurity and appeal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present a variety of instruments and opinions, but there is no clear consensus on what constitutes an "obscure" instrument. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing views on the significance and recognition of the instruments mentioned.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the pricing and availability of vintage synthesizers depend on specific market conditions, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion also reflects personal experiences and subjective interpretations of obscurity in musical instruments.

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Kazoo



Keytar



Harpiji



Stylophone

 
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Triple neck guitar.

 
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Otamatone. In Japan these are sold in musical instrument stores.



There are heavy metal versions.

This man also records with a backup of four Stylophones but I feel this is going too far.

Then there's the Otamatone Jumbo. It costs three thousand dollars. Really.

 
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Telephone Line Simulator

 
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Dan Bau

 
Serpent and octavin

 
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Please Don't Talk About Me When I'm Gone is better with a singing frog.

But if you want obscure instruments, let me present the floppy drive array:



 
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And of course...



C'mon you did this in graduate school too. Admit it.
 
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Hornbein said:
Triple neck guitar.


At least he didn't go down the novelty route.

Is he starting to look like Ronnie Wood? I suppose that is the fate of all rock musicians, eventually they all start to look like one of the stones.
 
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Hornbein said:
Telephone Line Simulator


That's like all my 1970s kids programs!
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
And of course...



C'mon you did this in graduate school too. Admit it.

I experienced one of these at Burning Man. Cool.
 
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pinball1970 said:
That's like all my 1970s kids programs!
This man does sound tracks and TV commercials, so you may have heard it before.

I wonder how much those original huge Moog synthesizers go for these days? The market is so tiny it doesn't show up on the Internet.
 
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Hornbein said:
I experienced one of these at Burning Man.
Get too close and that's exactly what you would become. After all, it's essentially a people-sized bug zapper.
 
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Gayageum. It isn't really an obscure instrument, but this sure is excellent. Johnny Rivers lives.

 
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If you want a vintage synth for the sounds, a few hundred dollars. If you want it for the nostalgia, many thousands - especially if you want it playable.
 
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Hornbein said:
This man does sound tracks and TV commercials, so you may have heard it before.

I wonder how much those original huge Moog synthesizers go for these days? The market is so tiny it doesn't show up on the Internet.
Our Keyboard player has one. It sounds awesome (check out Tarot woman intro and outro)
He paid a lot for it and has been offered a ridiculous amount to sell it.
 
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I heard people talking about Moogs and synthesizers... :smile:

Hornbein said:
I wonder how much those original huge Moog synthesizers go for these days?
Pretty expensive, I think. It was a while since I looked last time.
There are actually also new Moogs being produced, e.g. Moog One (and others here).

A new Moog One can be bought for merely $10'000. :eek::cry:
But it's got 16 voices! So you pay $625 per voice. :smile:

And while we're at it, why not mention one of the holy grails of vintage synths, the massive, legendary Yamaha CS-80 (very rare).

Used on records by e.g. legends like Vangelis, Herbie Hancock, Kate Bush, ABBA and Michael Jackson (read more here about famous artists who used it on their records: An introduction to the Yamaha CS-80 and 10 records it helped define)

Wikipedia said:
Yamaha CS-80

Dates 1977 - 1980
Price
US$6900
GB£4950

Production of the instrument ceased in 1980. Vying with the Sequential Circuits Prophet-5 and Oberheim OB-X polysynths for the title, the CS-80 is often described as the pre-eminent polyphonic analog synthesizer, and, together with the monophonic Moog modular synthesizer, commands amongst the highest prices of any synthesizer.

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For us mere mortals it is also available as a VSTi plugin software here:
https://www.arturia.com/products/analog-classics/cs-80v

Moogs are also available as plugins:
https://www.arturia.com/products/analog-classics/mini-v

And last, this is one of my absolute favorite software synthesizers (top 5): GForce MiniMonsta.
It's a Moog clone and sounds really, really good, in my opinion.
 
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I'm surprised:

1. Nobody commented on the singing frog.
2. Nobody quibbled that the Tesla coil is a bit of a cheat.
3. Nobody mentioned the thermin in Good Vibration, one of the few cases it was used musically not just to "sound spooky"
 
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pinball1970 said:
Our Keyboard player has one. It sounds awesome (check out Tarot woman intro and outro)
He paid a lot for it and has been offered a ridiculous amount to sell it.
Ha, real data. How much?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
2. Nobody quibbled that the Tesla coil is a bit of a cheat.
How come cheat? Just curious.
 
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DennisN said:
...Sequential Circuits Prophet 5
About 1980 I was interviewing for Silicon Valley jobs. Sequential Circuits was one. They had about a dozen people building Prophets in a garage attached to the owner's house. I was introduced to an athletic young lady who was a noted Ultimate Frisbee competitor.
 
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DennisN said:
I heard people talking about Moogs and synthesizers... :smile:Pretty expensive, I think. It was a while since I looked last time.
There are actually also new Moogs being produced, e.g. Moog One (and others here).

A new Moog One can be bought for merely $10'000. :eek::cry:
But it's got 16 voices! So you pay $625 per voice. :smile:
I'm asking about the very first Moog synthesizer, the one with dozens of patch cords and a separate keyboard. It made a sensation even though I'm sure very few were sold due to the expense. Since it appears to have been forgotten I guess it qualifies as an obscure instrument.

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DennisN said:
And while we're at it, why not mention one of the holy grails of vintage synths, the massive, legendary Yamaha CS-80 (very rare).
The Yamaha GX-1 had a 300kg console, a 78kg base, stand, and bench, and used up to four 141kg amplifier units.
 
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Frank Zappa on the Synclavier. He even toured with this instrument.

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Hornbein said:
The Yamaha GX-1 had a 300kg console, a 78kg base, stand, and bench, and used up to four 141kg amplifier units.
I pity the poor roadies who had to deal with that :biggrin:.
May they rest in peace buried on Brokeback Mountain.
 
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The Yellow Magic Orchestra had a giant synthesizer.

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Along with Kraftwerk they are credited with originating the hip hop/techno style. They appeared on Soul Train. Their music is too wimpy for me but they still have fans in Japan.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Nobody mentioned the thermin in Good Vibration, one of the few cases it was used musically not just to "sound spooky"
I know a singer of a rock/pop band (a friend of a friend) who used to play the theremin live now and then (when he wasn't singing). It sounded pretty cool.
 

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