If you could learn to play any musical instrument

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The discussion revolves around participants sharing their aspirations to learn various musical instruments. The scope includes personal preferences, experiences with different instruments, and the emotional connections to music. Participants express their thoughts on versatility, challenges, and the joy of music-making.

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  • Some participants express a desire to learn the piano due to its versatility and emotional depth.
  • One participant mentions the advantages of digital pianos as substitutes for traditional pianos.
  • Another participant shares their experience with the violin and the limitations of time and strength affecting their playing ability.
  • Several participants mention interest in other instruments, including the harp, saxophone, guitar, electric organ, bagpipes, drums, cello, and theremin.
  • Concerns about social stigma associated with learning an instrument later in life are raised by some participants.
  • One participant humorously notes their current endeavor to "learn to play the radio."
  • There are discussions about the ease of transitioning between instruments, such as from piano to organ or guitar to bass.
  • Some participants express a desire to develop their singing voice for musical theater.

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Participants generally share a common interest in learning musical instruments, but there are multiple competing views regarding which instruments are preferable and the challenges associated with learning them. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to overcoming social stigma and personal limitations.

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Some participants mention limitations related to time, money, and physical ability, which may affect their ability to learn instruments effectively. The discussion reflects a variety of personal experiences and aspirations without reaching a consensus on specific instruments or learning methods.

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Individuals interested in music, those considering learning an instrument, and anyone exploring the emotional and social aspects of music-making may find this discussion relevant.

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David Carroll said:
What I'd like to do is place struts on my guitar in between the manufactured ones to create quarter tones. Sorry for a math question in a general discussion thread, but I was wondering: if I do this, how far between the manufactured struts do I place them? I think I set it in such a way that the ratio of the distance between the lower manufactured strut and the quarter tone strut over the distance between the higher manufactured strut and the quarter tone strut is equal to 2^(1/24) units (since there are 24 quarter tones). Is this right?

To make the 12 fret octave on stringed instruments, master luthiers used the 1/18th rule. Each successive fret is 1/18th the distance remaining on the unfretted portion of the board. Not sure how the derivation comes out - probably the relation between frequency, length, and tension:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/string.html

Jonathan Scott said:
That's probably about right, but the pitch might not be as accurate as the maths. For a start, pressing down the guitar string changes the tension and holding it down closer to or further away behind the fret therefore also changes the pitch. (This effect can mean that acoustic guitar strings made from different materials can result in different pitches for the same fret position, especially for higher frets). That means that when you add a new fret, you will now need to hold the string down closer to the existing fret, which will actually raise the pitch of the existing note slightly. Perhaps you need a fretless instrument!

The 1/18th rule leads to an error that's slightly flat, so the increase in tension ideally cancels out the error. Of course, if you use light vs. heavy strings it probably affects the amount of compensation, but we're probably talking on the order of ~10 cents here.
 
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