Exercise on dual / second dual spaces (functional analysis)

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The discussion revolves around a problem in functional analysis concerning bounded linear operators in a reflexive Banach space. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that the supremum of the norms of the dual operators is finite, utilizing the Uniform Boundedness Principle (UBP).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the limit of functionals applied to the operators and question how to apply the UBP effectively. There is discussion on the definition and properties of dual operators, as well as the conditions under which the UBP can be applied.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the validity of certain steps in the reasoning process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the UBP and the Banach-Steinhaus theorem, but there is still uncertainty about the connections between the statements made and the conclusions drawn.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding terminology, specifically the distinction between the UBP and the Banach-Steinhaus theorem as understood in different contexts. Participants are also considering the implications of boundedness for sequences of operators and their duals.

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Homework Statement


Let [itex](X,\|\cdot\|)[/itex] be a reflexive Banach space. Let [itex]\{T_n\}_{n\in\mathbb{N}}[/itex] be a sequence of bounded linear operators from [itex]X[/itex] into [itex]X[/itex] such that [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty}f(T_nx)[/itex] exists for all [itex]f\in X'[/itex] and [itex]x\in X[/itex].
Use the Uniform Boundedness Principle (twice) to show that [itex]\sup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}\|T_n'\|<\infty[/itex].

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For operators between normed spaces we have [itex]\|T'\|=\|T\|[/itex], but I'm not sure if this can help in this case.

The Attempt at a Solution


I am currently at loss how to deal with information on functions [itex]f[/itex] to apply UBP.
Any hints welcome.
 
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What is [itex]T_n^\prime[/itex]??

It might be a good idea to write [itex]f(T_n x) = \widehat{T_n x}(f)[/itex], where [itex]\widehat{T_n x} \in X^{\prime\prime}[/itex]. Apply UBT on this.
 
[itex]T_n'[/itex] is the dual operator of operator [itex]T[/itex], i.e. [itex]T'\in B(X',X')[/itex] s.t. [itex]T'(f)(x)=f(Tx)[/itex] for [itex]x\in X[/itex] and [itex]f\in X'[/itex].

Do I get this right that you denote the dual operator with "hat" symbol?
 
Yes, I mean the dual operator.

Ok, so you need to prove [itex]\sup_n \|T_n^\prime\|<+\infty[/itex]. What does the UBP tell you?? Is it sufficient to prove something easier?
 
I came up with (what I think is) a proof in 3 steps using UBP only once.

1) Knowing that [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty}f(T_nx)=\lim_{n\to\infty}T_n'(f)(x)[/itex] exists for all [itex]f\in X'[/itex] (is given), one can say that for any [itex]n\in\mathbb{N}[/itex]: [itex]\|T_n'(f)\|<\infty[/itex] hence [itex]\sup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}\|T_n'(f)\|<\infty[/itex] for all [itex]f\in X'[/itex].

2) Since [itex]T_n\in B(X,X)[/itex] then [itex]T_n'\in B(X',X')[/itex] for all [itex]n\in\mathbb{N}[/itex] (there is a Theorem I can refer to).

3) "2" allows to apply UBP to "1" and obtain [itex]\sup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}\|T_n'\|<\infty[/itex].

I'm not sure whether my argument in "1" is correct, can you please comment?
 
TaPaKaH said:
1) Knowing that [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty}f(T_nx)=\lim_{n\to\infty}T_n'(f)(x)[/itex] exists for all [itex]f\in X'[/itex] (is given), one can say that for any [itex]n\in\mathbb{N}[/itex]: [itex]\|T_n'(f)\|<\infty[/itex]

OK, I see how you can conclude that for any n separately (you don't even need the limit for that, you are now just saying that [itex]T_n^\prime(f)[/itex] is bounded), but

hence [itex]\sup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}\|T_n'(f)\|<\infty[/itex] for all [itex]f\in X'[/itex].

I don't see how you can conclude this. Right now you are making a statement for all n. Before, you have made the statement for particular n.

For example, why can't you have

[tex]\|T_n^\prime(f)\|=2^n<+\infty[/tex]

but then

[tex]\sup_n \|T_n^\prime(f)\|=+\infty[/tex]

So I don't see how you can infer your statement about the supremum from the previous. You should clarify. (you will need UBP here)
 
In 1) one can apply Banach-Steinhaus Theorem and get that [itex]T'(f):=\lim_{n\to\infty}T_n'(f)[/itex] is in [itex]B(X',X')[/itex] so [itex]\|T'(f)\|<\infty[/itex] for any [itex]f\in X'[/itex] since [itex]\|T'\|<\infty[/itex] and [itex]\|f\|<\infty[/itex].

So if for all [itex]f\in X'[/itex] we have [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty}\|T_n'(f)\|=\|T'(f)\|<\infty[/itex] then it implies that [itex]\sup_{n\in\mathbb{N}}\|T_n'(f)\|<\infty[/itex] for all [itex]f\in X'[/itex], no?
 
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TaPaKaH said:
In 1) one can apply Banach-Steinhaus Theorem

What is the Banach-Steinhaus theorem to you?? Usually it is the same as the UBP, but you seem to imply that there is a difference.

and get that [itex]T'(f):=\lim_{n\to\infty}T_n'(f)[/itex]

It is not obvious to me that you can actually make that definition. All you know is that

[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} T_n^\prime(f)(x)[/tex]

converges for all f and all x. Why does there exist an operator T such that

[tex]T^\prime (f)(x)=\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} T_n^\prime (f)(x)[/tex]
 
in the literature I'm using, first Theorem from here is called UBP and Corollary is called BST, excuse me for possible confusion

Now I am slightly confused. You suggested me to apply UBP to [itex]T_n'(f)(x)[/itex] but I can't see a way to do this to get [itex]\sup_n\|T_n'(f)\|<\infty[/itex].
 
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All you have to show is that if f is fixed and x is fixed but arbitrary, then

[tex]\sup_n \|T_n^\prime (f)(x)\|<+\infty[/tex]

then UBP would imply

[tex]\sup_n \|T_n^\prime(f)\|<+\infty[/tex]
 
  • #11
Do I now get the idea correctly?

1. For any [itex]f\in X'[/itex] and [itex]x\in X[/itex]: existence of [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty}T_n'(f)(x)[/itex] implies existence of [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty}\|T_n'(f)(x)\|[/itex]. Every element of sequence is bounded, so [itex]\sup_n\|T_n'(f)(x)\|<\infty[/itex].

2. Applying UBP on x and then on f to [itex]\sup_n\|T_n'(f)(x)\|<\infty[/itex] we get [itex]\sup_n\|T_n'\|<\infty[/itex].
 
  • #12
That seems right!
 

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