Exothermic Reactions: Heat Packs & Sodium Acetate

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of sodium acetate in exothermic heat packs, specifically addressing the duration and nature of the heat release during the reaction. Participants explore whether the heat release is short-lived or sustained, the role of insulation, and the impact of size on heat retention.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Scott questions whether the heat from sodium acetate heat packs is released for only 15 seconds while feeling hot for about 30 minutes due to insulation effects.
  • Some participants suggest that the chemical reaction may be active for most of the duration, but the exact rate of the reaction is uncertain.
  • There is a proposal to test the cooling time of an old heat pack to understand how long it stays hot after the reactants are depleted.
  • One participant notes that adding an insulator could prolong heat retention but might reduce the temperature of the pack.
  • Another participant mentions that larger heat pads may stay hot longer, raising the question of whether this is due to size or the reaction itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the exact nature of the heat release and the role of insulation, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the reaction rate and the definitions of thermal mass, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Hello,

There is something that has been puzzling me. Sorry if I don't use the correct terminology, this is not my field.

When a heat pack made of sodium acetate starts its exothermic reaction, does it release heat for only 15 seconds, but feels hot for ~30 minutes because the sodium acetate solution is acting as an insulator?

Or

When a sodium acetate exothermic reaction starts, does the chemical reaction happen for then entire length of the ~30mins.

If the sodium acetate solution is acting like an insulator, could another material be added to maintain the heat for longer?

Also, larger sized heat pads stay hot longer, is that due to size or reaction?

Thank you in advance for any help on the question,
Scott
 
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I don't think that anyone actually knows this for sure. You'd have to know the rate of the reaction. I'm certain that it is a little bit of both.

As to adding an insulator to make the heat last longer, you could do that, but then it wouldn't be so hot, would it?
 
I'd imagine the chemical reaction is active during almost the total time, because those thermal packs don't have much thermal mass. You can test this by taking an old pack, heating it up "manually" (e.g., in a plastic bag dipped in hot water, or in an oven), and seeing how long it takes to cool down. This time corresponds approximately to the time the pack would stay hot after the reactants are depleted.
 

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