Expectation values of the electron.

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The discussion centers on calculating the expectation value <r> for the electron-nucleus separation in the hydrogen atom's 1, 0, 0 state. The user has derived the wave function ψ and is attempting to integrate using the provided formula but is struggling with the integration process due to the exponential term. Other participants suggest using integration by parts and provide hints on how to structure the integral. They emphasize the need to assign appropriate variables for integration by parts to simplify the calculation. The conversation highlights common challenges in quantum mechanics integrals and collaborative problem-solving.
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Homework Statement



The expectation value <r> of the electron-nucleus separation distance 'r' is:

<r> = ʃ r |ψ|² dV.

(a) Determine <r> for the 1, 0, 0 state of hydrogen.





The Attempt at a Solution



Right, I've obtained the value for ψ = (1/πa³)^1/2 exp(-r/a)

I then replace dv by 4πr² dr.

I then put all of that in the equation above and try to integrate but I can't seem to go any further from here. Any help?

Thanks very much.
 
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Are you having trouble with the integral? Remember how to integrate by parts?
 
I think it might be the integral. The problem is, I have an exponential term in the integral which I can't solve by parts? if so how?
 
How are you trying to integrate, and what's the problem? Show us what you are doing.
 
Your integral should be of the form:

u dv = exp(-2r/a) r^3 dr

All you have to do is assign u and v. Hint: you will have to integrate by parts several times.
 

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