Expectation values of the electron.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expectation value of the electron-nucleus separation distance 'r' for the 1, 0, 0 state of hydrogen, using the provided wave function and integral formulation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the integration process required to compute the expectation value, with one participant expressing difficulty in proceeding with the integral involving an exponential term.

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Some participants are exploring different methods of integration, including integration by parts, while others are questioning specific steps in the integration process. There is an ongoing exchange of hints and suggestions regarding the approach to the integral.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. The complexity of the integral involving the exponential function is a focal point of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



The expectation value <r> of the electron-nucleus separation distance 'r' is:

<r> = ʃ r |ψ|² dV.

(a) Determine <r> for the 1, 0, 0 state of hydrogen.





The Attempt at a Solution



Right, I've obtained the value for ψ = (1/πa³)^1/2 exp(-r/a)

I then replace dv by 4πr² dr.

I then put all of that in the equation above and try to integrate but I can't seem to go any further from here. Any help?

Thanks very much.
 
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Are you having trouble with the integral? Remember how to integrate by parts?
 
I think it might be the integral. The problem is, I have an exponential term in the integral which I can't solve by parts? if so how?
 
How are you trying to integrate, and what's the problem? Show us what you are doing.
 
Your integral should be of the form:

u dv = exp(-2r/a) r^3 dr

All you have to do is assign u and v. Hint: you will have to integrate by parts several times.
 

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