Expectation values r and x for electron in H2 ground state

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The discussion focuses on calculating the expectation values for the electron in the ground state of H2. The expectation value of radius, ⟨r⟩, is determined to be 3/2 a, while ⟨r²⟩ is calculated as 3a². The relationship between r² and x² leads to the conclusion that ⟨x²⟩ equals a². There is confusion regarding the calculation of ⟨x⟩, with considerations of symmetry suggesting it should be zero, but the nature of measurements indicates that ⟨x²⟩ cannot be zero. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding symmetry in quantum mechanics.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


$$ \psi_{100} = \frac {1}{\sqrt{\pi a^{3}}} e^{-r/a} $$

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
$$\langle r \rangle = \frac {1}{\pi a^{3}} \int_0^{2 \pi} d \phi \int_{0}^\pi d \theta \int_0^{\infty} r^{3} e^{-2r/a} dr$$
This comes out to be ##\frac {3}{2}a##

$$\langle r^{2} \rangle = \frac {1}{\pi a^{3}} \int_0^{2 \pi} d \phi \int_{0}^\pi d \theta \int_0^{\infty} r^{4} e^{-2r/a} dr$$
Which comes out as ##3a^{2}##

b)
I know ##r^{2} = 3x^{2}##, so the answer for the expectation value of ##x^{2}## is one third the expectation value of ##r^{2}##, therefore ##\langle x^{2} \rangle = a^{2}##

However, I am confused how to find ##\langle x \rangle##. Do I just say ##x = r sin \theta##, therefore ##dx = sin \theta dr + r cos \theta d \theta##?
 
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<x> is easy to find by symmetry, but you can calculate the integral if you want.
 
Yes, I am confused how to exploit the symmetry
 
Do you expect the electron to be on average more on the left or the right side? Does that question even make sense as you don't know where left and right are?
 
Okay, I suppose that makes sense, but then why would the square x coordinate not be zero then? By the same reasoning
 
Maylis said:
Okay, I suppose that makes sense, but then why would the square x coordinate not be zero then? By the same reasoning

Because a measurement of ##x^2## is positive so the expected value can't be 0.
 
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