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Experience in RF module Comsol?

  1. Oct 23, 2008 #1

    anyone with some experience in Comsol?
    I have a few basic questions on the RF module

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  3. Oct 24, 2008 #2


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    ..... RF module isn't really my everyday thing with Comsol but as long as its "basic" :wink: .
  4. Oct 24, 2008 #3
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    Thanks PerennialII

    2 questions:
    1) After "Solve", I get access to predefined variables which i can plot.
    How can I create user-defined variables? where is the menu to do that?

    2) I need to draw a 1 turn of of solid helicoid (spiral ramp),i.e., the volume included under spiraling surface.

    I found the following while hunting online:
    "First issue the command

    h = helix3(6,30,20,3*20,12)

    which will generate the output log

    h =

    3D solid object
    subdomains: 1
    faces: 146
    edges: 292
    vertices: 148

    Then start COMSOL Multiphysics by issuing the command

    1. In the Model Navigator, choose Space Dimension: 3D.
    2. Select COMSOL Multiphysics>Heat Transfer>Conduction and click OK.
    3. In the COMSOL user interface, select File>Import >Geometry Objects, select h[3D Solid Object], and click OK.

    The solid helix that it generates is not the one i need. How can I fix the formula?

    thanks a lot!
  5. Oct 25, 2008 #4


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    1) When you open the "plot parameters" dialog, and for example take a surface plot, you've the "expression" slot over there. You can just type in whatever mathematical expression you want and Comsol will visualize it for you. Pretty neat compared to traditional FEA. Additionally, you could for example make a "scalar variable" (options->expressions->scalar expressions) out of what you want to visualize and then type in the name of your variable.

    2) From comsol documentation :
    Editing those should help, and unless you use other geometry import means (like doing the helix in some other geometry modeler) pretty much the way to do it since comsol's gui doesn't contain this one (not at least in the 3.4 application mode am in now).
  6. Nov 13, 2008 #5
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    Hello PerennialII

    fisico30 here. you surely are the Comsol expert in this forum. Let me ask you a few simple questions, if you have time.

    1) I would like to create the geometry we talked about last time using the command helix3(dr,r,dh,h,n)

    Should I first draw something in the GUI, like a cube (but it could be anything), and then save that as a model m-file?
    How do I open that m-file, to modify it ( should I insert the command helix3(dr,r,dh,h,n) somewhere in the file and then erase the stuff I do not need) and then launch it in Comsol?
    Do I need to close the comsol GUI and then reopen comsol with the option "Comsol with Matlab"? (3 options at the start: Comsol, COmsol with script, Comsol with matlab).

    To modify the m-file (which is a text file), do I always have to be in Matlab enviroment?

    Is that the best way to get started (draw anything simple) and take advantage of the automatic scripting that comsol does?

    2) The comsol scripting is "almost" like the matlab. The help is a little overwhelming. Would you recommend any other resource (book, paper) on the topic of scripting?

    3) Why is the weak PDE mode called weak?

    4) what is a fem in the script? is it a class like in java?

    thanks again,
  7. Nov 18, 2008 #6


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    Hi fisico30,

    here goes, sure have time whenever my boss isn't breathing in my neck:

    1) Yes I think the best option to get going is to use the Export / Import features a lot. Do something in GUI, export it, modify it, import it, and iterate to appropriate conclusion. You can do the editing with any text editor, and unless you're using something you specifically need Matlab for, you can just start Comsol and Comsol script (and then work all over the place, doing the imports / exports without having to close or open anything).

    2) Yeah, it's not the easiest thing to learn from the material that is available. However, the Multiphysics part scripting guide is quite readable in my mind and that's the part have used myself (don't have a hard copy of it (didn't come with my documentation), but found it in the software help menu). Probably the best idea would be to get oneself to a course organized by Comsol about the topic or try to get hands on material of such a course (trying to collect such material myself).

    3) The weak echoes the fact that in FEM you solve the PDEs in their weak form (~"integral form" of the PDE). Synonym would be the variational form. This is a typical step in derivation of FE methods for PDEs. It's certainly not weak, but it's a step in derivation of the underlying numerical "scheme". Comsol weak form terms aren't completely 1-1 what are understood as the weak forms of boundary value problems in FE literature for example, but it's a representation of the same thing.

    4) Yes, I think somewhere they refer it to as a "data structure", but as far as I understand it is pretty much a class in the java sense of things.
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