COMSOL Modeling help (ambient air around a thermoelectric module)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling ambient air around a thermoelectric module using COMSOL software. Participants are exploring the complexities of simulating air, particularly in relation to heat transfer and convection, within the context of undergraduate research.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Chad expresses a need for guidance on modeling ambient air around a thermoelectric module in COMSOL, indicating a lack of experience with the software.
  • One participant questions the complexity required for modeling air, noting that simulating still air is straightforward while convection presents more challenges.
  • Another participant reiterates the simplicity of modeling still air and mentions uncertainty about how convecting air behaves differently, stating a need for basic air blocks in the model.
  • A suggestion is made to utilize the Heat Transfer module in COMSOL, with references to examples available in the COMSOL Application Gallery that demonstrate heat transfer with and without convection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree that simulating still air is simpler than modeling convection, but there is no consensus on the necessary complexity for the air modeling in this specific context.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about air behavior, the specifics of convection modeling, and the experience level of participants with thermodynamics.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for undergraduate students or researchers new to COMSOL who are interested in thermal modeling, particularly in the context of thermoelectric applications.

ChadThePianist
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Hello everyone, I am wondering how to model ambient air around a thermoelectric module in COMSOL. I am fairly new to the software and am doing undergraduate research revolved around it. Any help or pertinent examples would be appreciated. I can send/post screenshots and or .mph files if it would be valuable.

~ Chad
 
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How complicated does the modelling of air need to be? Simulating still air is easy, convection not so much...
 
DrClaude said:
How complicated does the modelling of air need to be? Simulating still air is easy, convection not so much...
Still air will be okay. Quite honestly, I am not so experienced with thermo to know how convecting air will behave differently. I l just need some blocks of air on the bottom of the TE and for the model to work and compile in a time dependent frame.
 

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