Explaining Angular Frequency: \theta, m, R, r & k

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The discussion focuses on deriving an expression for angular frequency in terms of mass (m), radius (R), radius of the spring (r), and the proportionality constant (k). The key equations referenced are τ = -kθ and τ = Iα, where I = MR², leading to α = -kθ / MR². Participants emphasize the importance of relating angular displacement (θ) to the elongation (Δx) of the spring and the torque generated by the applied force at distance r from the axis of rotation.

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https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=846415

Can anyone explain this a little bit more?

I found these 2 formulas.
\tau=-k \theta

How do I relate \theta with m, R, r & k? (In my problem I am not working with numbers, i need to find an expression for angular frequency in terms of R, r, m, k,

\tau=I \alpha where I=MR^2

therefore \alpha = \frac{-k_t\theta}{MR^2}

Do I just resolve \theta into its horizontal component? That wouldn't really get rid of \theta though...Confused
Thanks
 
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suspenc3 said:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=846415

Can anyone explain this a little bit more?

I found these 2 formulas.
\tau=-k \theta

How do I relate \theta with m, R, r & k? (In my problem I am not working with numbers, i need to find an expression for angular frequency in terms of R, r, m, k,

\tau=I \alpha where I=MR^2

therefore \alpha = \frac{-k_t\theta}{MR^2}

Do I just resolve \theta into its horizontal component? That wouldn't really get rid of \theta though...Confused
Thanks

From the diagram in the link you posted you should be able to write an expression for the elongation (or compression) of the spring Δx in terms of the small angular displacement of the wheel from the equilibrium position. The force applied at the point of connection between the spring and the wheel is proportional to Δx. The torque about the axle of the wheel is the result of that force applied at distance r from the axis of rotation.

The "k" in your equation above is not necessarily the spring constant of the spring in the diagram. You need to find the proportionality constant between torque and angular displacement.
 

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