Explaining the Inconsistency and Solution in Faraday's Law of Induction

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of Faraday's Law of Induction and Ampere's Law, particularly focusing on the inconsistencies encountered with Ampere's Law in the context of time-varying fields. Participants explore the implications of these laws within electromagnetic theory.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine the reasons behind the consistency of Faraday's Law compared to Ampere's Law, discussing the role of time dependence and the divergence of both laws. Questions are raised about the physical implications of these differences and the potential effects of magnetic monopoles.

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The discussion is active, with participants elaborating on the mathematical relationships and physical principles underlying the laws. Some guidance has been provided regarding the differences in assumptions between the two laws, and the conversation is exploring deeper implications without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are considering the implications of magnetic monopoles and how they would affect the formulation of Faraday's Law, indicating a level of uncertainty regarding the completeness of the current understanding of these laws.

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Homework Statement



Why does the Faraday Law of Induction not suffer from the inconsistency encountered with the Ampere Law?

Homework Equations



\oint E * dl = - (N) d/dt \intB * dA

The Attempt at a Solution



The Ampere Law is inconsistent with the time varying equation of continuity, so Maxwell put in the "displacement current" term to the current-density term. Faraday's law states that the EMF induced by a change in magnetic flux depends on the change in flux, change in time and the number of turns of coils(N). The minus sign in Faraday's law of induction means that the EMF creates a current I and magnetic field B that oppose the change in flux.

So is the reason that the Faraday's Law of Induction doesn't have the inconsistency because of the presence of time derivative of the flux or because of the negative sign?
 
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Well it's two-fold. Let's take a look at Ampere's law without the displacement current term: ##\vec{\nabla}\times \vec{B} = \mu_0 \vec{j}##. Recall that for any smooth vector field, the divergence of the curl of the vector field always vanishes so in our case ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot (\vec{\nabla}\times \vec{B}) = 0## but this implies that ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{j} = 0## for all systems which violates conservation of charge: ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{j} + \frac{\partial \rho}{\partial t} = 0##. In order to make sure Ampere's law is consistent with conservation of charge, we add the displacement current ##\mu_0 \epsilon_0 \frac{\partial \vec{E}}{\partial t}##. At this point I'm basically just elaborating on what you already stated in the first paragraph of your post.

Now let's take a look at Faraday's law: ##\vec{\nabla}\times \vec{E} = -\frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t}##. Take the divergence of both sides. Is there an inconsistency? If not, why physically is there no inconsistency i.e. what is the crucial difference between Ampere's law without the displacement current and Faraday's law that frees the latter from the inconsistency suffered by the former?
 
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Taking the divergence of both sides would give you zero on both sides correct? So the difference between Faraday’s and Ampere’s law is that Ampere’s law assumes that the currents are steady and so it is not dependent on time. Then because an electric field is generated by a "changing" magnetic field then Faraday’s law is time dependent. Then because Faraday's law is time dependent and any change in B would then have an instantaneous change in E, there is no inconsistency.
 
Right so taking the divergence of both sides shows that the same inconsistency doesn't occur with Faraday's law but it isn't exactly for the reason you mentioned. In seeing that Faraday's law carries no inconsistency, you used the fact that ##\vec{\nabla}\cdot \vec{B} = 0## always holds correct? What if there existed a magnetic charge such that ##\vec{\nabla}\cdot \vec{B} = \rho_{m}##? Would Faraday's law remain consistent in the above form?
 
In the case of a magnetic monopole which I think is what you are asking, an extra term involving the current of magnetic monopoles would need to be added to the right side of Faraday's Law in differential form.
 
Right. So do you see the difference now between ##\vec{\nabla}\times \vec{E} = -\frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t}## and ##\vec{\nabla}\times \vec{B} = \mu_0 \vec{j}## with regards to why the latter needs to have a ##\mu_0 \epsilon_0 \frac{\partial \vec{E}}{\partial t}## term added but no change is needed for the former (under the framework that magnetic charges don't exist)?
 
Yes, thanks for helping me better understand this.
 

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