Explanation for hydrodynamic problem

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The discussion revolves around a hydrodynamic problem involving fluid flow, specifically applying Bernoulli's equation and the continuity equation to determine the distance a fluid will travel after exiting a hole.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial understanding of fluid dynamics equations and the application of these equations to find the distance a fluid travels after exiting a hole. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about horizontal acceleration and the factors influencing motion.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring various aspects of the problem, including the relationship between vertical and horizontal motion. Some guidance has been provided regarding the application of equations of motion, but there remains uncertainty about specific assumptions and their implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the known distance from the hole to the ground and the velocity of the fluid at the hole, while expressing uncertainty about the time it takes for the fluid to reach the ground and the nature of horizontal acceleration.

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Homework Equations


Bernoulli equation and continuity equation

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know from where to begin , i only can get the velocity of fluid when it reaches the hole
 

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You must have been taught something on the topic. Any standard equations relating to fluid flow?
 
haruspex said:
You must have been taught something on the topic. Any standard equations relating to fluid flow?
Yeah , bernoulli equation and continuity equation.
 
Mohamed Essam said:
Yeah , bernoulli equation and continuity equation.
You should have listed those under Relevant Equations in the template.
So try applying Bernoulli's. What do you get?
 
haruspex said:
You should have listed those under Relevant Equations in the template.
So try applying Bernoulli's. What do you get?
Only the velocity of fluid at the hole , i don't know what to do i don't know any other information of how to get the distance x that the fluid will cover
 
Mohamed Essam said:
Only the velocity of fluid at the hole , i don't know what to do i don't know any other information of how to get the distance x that the fluid will cover
That's a good start. (Next time, please show how far you got in your initial post, otherwise you risk having your post deleted.)
If you throw an object horizontally at a known speed and known height, can you figure out where it will land?
 
haruspex said:
That's a good start. (Next time, please show how far you got in your initial post, otherwise you risk having your post deleted.)
If you throw an object horizontally at a known speed and known height, can you figure out where it will land?
I think it's by laws of motion !
 
Mohamed Essam said:
I think it's by laws of motion !
Yes, specifically, motion under constant acceleration. What equations do you know for that?
 
haruspex said:
Yes, specifically, motion under constant acceleration. What equations do you know for that?
D=volt+1/2at^2
 
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Mohamed Essam said:
D=volt+1/2at^2
Right. How can you apply that here?
 
  • #11
haruspex said:
Right. How can you apply that here?
That the problem I've faced , i don't know how to apply it here
 
  • #12
Mohamed Essam said:
That the problem I've faced , i don't know how to apply it here
What facts do you know in this problem regarding speeds, time, distances and accelerations?
 
  • #13
haruspex said:
What facts do you know in this problem regarding speeds, time, distances and accelerations?
I only know the distance from the hole to ground y is 30 cm and the velocity of fluid when it reaches the hole , i only don't know the time when it reaches ground and the acceleration of fluid .
 
  • #14
Mohamed Essam said:
I only know the distance from the hole to ground y is 30 cm and the velocity of fluid when it reaches the hole , i only don't know the time when it reaches ground and the acceleration of fluid .
What is causing it to accelerate, once it has left the tank?
 
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haruspex said:
What is causing it to accelerate, once it has left the tank?
Only gravity i think
 
  • #16
Mohamed Essam said:
Only gravity i think
Right, so you know the vertical and horizontal (0) accelerations.
Apply your equation for both directions.
 
  • #17
haruspex said:
Right, so you know the vertical and horizontal (0) accelerations.
Apply your equation for both directions.
So i can get the time from the y-direction equation and put it in the x-direction equation so i can get the distance x , is that right ?!
 
  • #18
Mohamed Essam said:
So i can get the time from the y-direction equation and put it in the x-direction equation so i can get the distance x , is that right ?!
Right!
 
  • #19
haruspex said:
Right!
But why you assumed that the horizontal acceleration = 0 , if i didn't know that it equals 0 i can't solve it , so i need to understand why it equals 0
 
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Mohamed Essam said:
But why you assumed that the horizontal acceleration = 0 , if i didn't know that it equals 0 i can't solve it , so i need to understand why it equals 0
What force is there to accelerate it horizontally?
 
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