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The discussion revolves around a calculus problem involving the calculation of work done during the compression of gas, specifically nitrogen, using integral calculus and numerical methods such as Simpson's rule. The original poster presents data regarding gas volume, pressure, and a compression index, along with a mathematical relationship between pressure and volume.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to clarify the problem statement and the integration process. Some express confusion about the original poster's understanding of the formulas and the numerical methods mentioned. There are attempts to identify the constant C and evaluate the integral for work done, with some participants questioning the clarity of the original poster's explanation and the attachment provided.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking to clarify the original poster's understanding of the problem and the calculations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between pressure and volume, as well as hints about evaluating the integral. However, there is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the problem or the steps taken.

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Participants note that the original poster has copied work from a classmate and expresses a lack of understanding regarding the calculations. There is an emphasis on the need for the original poster to engage more with the material presented.

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Homework Statement



The following data has been collected:

Gas volume: V = 0.8 m3
Gas pressure: p = 160 kPa
Compression index: n = 1.4
Pressure/volume relationship: pV^n = C

Work done = ∫ TOP=V2 BOTTOM =V1

You first need to work out C, the value of the pressure/volume relationship.
Calculate the work done in compressing the nitrogen from 0.8 m3 to 0.6 m3 using:
integral calculus Simpson’s rule

Comment on the accuracy of the numerical method.
Note: if you wish, you may use a spreadsheet for the numerical method.

3. The Attempt at a Solution

As i did not understand the question, I copied out all the work from a classmate. Would you please explain to me what is going on please.

ThanksPart 1
Integral calculus:

pV^1.4=C so p=C/V^1.4.
Work done ON the gas = -∫p dV = C∫ (1/V)^1.4 dV
= -C [ 1/(-1.4+1)][V^(-1.4+1)]
= -C [ 1/(-0.4][V^(-0.4)]
= +2.5C (1/V2^0.4 - 1/V1^0.4)

V1=0.8, V2=0.6, C=p1V1^1.4=160000*0.8^1.4=117070.

work done = +2.5*117070*(1/0.6^0.4 - 1/0.8^0.4) = +39025 J = +39.0 kJ.
Part 2: Simpson rule - I have attached an excel file I basically don't understand how "group c" includes this formula

This formula being "(117.07*10^3)/(number^1.4) "

for 1= 0.8 =(117.07*10^3)/(0.8^1.4) = 159999,8725
2=0.775 =(117.07*10^3)/(0.775^1.4) =167271,9943

etc
Thank you very much
 

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I really have no clue what you are asking. Under problem statement, you give several formulas (including "Work done = ∫ TOP=V2 BOTTOM =V1" which makes no sense because you don't say what you are integrating) but you don't state what the problem is. Your attachment is just a list of numbers with, again, no statement as to what you are trying to do. I would guess that you are trying to find "work done" but "work done" while doing what?
 


I did not know how to construct a formula. So I have attached the questions below and hopefully you will understand it better.

Thanks
 

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Anyone! Just a small explanation will do
 


maali5 said:
Anyone! Just a small explanation will do

You have a relationship between p and V involving a constant C; you also have numerical values of p and V at one point, so you can figure out what must be the value of C. Then you are given an integral ∫ p dV to evaluate. You are even given some hints about Simpson's rule, etc, for finding approximate values of the integral (although in this case the integral is so easy that you can do it directly). So, what is stopping you from actually DOING all this?

RGV
 


Is my english really that difficult to understand?

I have already completed the work just wanted some guidance on how this number came about.
 


It's not a question of understanding your English. It's trying to understand what is confusing you when the all of the work is right in front of you. You already admitted you didn't actually do the work yourself and simply copied it from a classmate. The least you can do is put some minimal effort into figuring out what was done.
 

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