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What is i^i?? And how do we find it?
The discussion revolves around the calculation of the expression i^i, exploring its properties and implications in complex exponentiation. Participants delve into definitions, alternative representations, and related mathematical concepts, including the challenges of manipulating complex numbers.
Participants express differing views on the manipulation of complex numbers and the implications of certain mathematical identities. There is no consensus on the legality of specific steps in the calculations, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the complexities involved in these manipulations.
Limitations include the dependence on definitions of complex exponentiation and the potential for confusion arising from the multi-valued nature of complex logarithms and exponentials.
Hurkyl said:By the definitions!
For complex numbers, exponentiation is defined by:
z^w := \exp(w \log z)
For the principal value of the exponential, you use the principal value of the logarithm.
Tide said:Alternate HINT:
i^i = \left(e^{i\pi /2}\right)^i
tongos said:well, what stumps me is how to find like (i+5)^(i+5)?
Tsss said:The fact that (a^b)^c=a^{bc} is not right with complex numbers.
As a matter of fact, let z a complex number,
e^z=e^{\frac{2i\pi z}{2i\pi}}=(e^{2i\pi})^{\frac{z}{2i\pi}}=1^{\frac{z}{2i\pi}}=1
there is a problem.
Tide said:That's slick but
1^{\frac{z}{2\pi i}}=1
only if 1 = e^{0i} (on the LHS) but you explicitly took 1 = e^{2\pi i} and used a different expression of 1 in your final step. 1^z will be 1 only if arg z = 0.
learningphysics said:So when manipulating complex numbers we can't simply make a substitution and say:
1^\frac{z}{2\pi i}=(e^{(0i)})^{\frac{z}{2\pi i}}=e^0=1 ??
Which step above is illegal when manipulating complex numbers?
Is there a webpage, which states these types of situations...