Why Aren't Helium, Krypton, and Neon More Commonly Used in Incandescent Bulbs?

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Helium is not commonly used in high-temperature incandescent bulbs due to its high diffusion rate, which allows it to escape through glass walls, making it less effective than krypton or argon. Helium's ionization difficulty and lower heat capacity compared to argon also contribute to its limited application. Additionally, the cost of helium is higher than that of argon, which is readily available from the atmosphere. Graham's law explains the diffusion rates of these gases, indicating that helium diffuses significantly faster than argon and krypton.

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Facial
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I have a question about helium :

If it is the most inert substance, why isn't it used more than krypton or argon for high-temperature incandescent bulbs?

I don't see neon in light bulbs too often either.
 
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Helium can diffuse through a thin glass wall, so it would escape from a light bulb (not very useful).
 
What would the color be with helium?
 
Would it matter? The OP was about incandescent, not fluorescent bulbs.
 
Helium is also much harder to ionize.
 
It might have something to do with heat capacity. High temperature instruments like ICPs use argon as the cooling gas because it can hold more heat than helium can (and take the heat away).
Might also have something to do with cost. Does helium cost more than argon or krypton?
 
rachmaninoff said:
Helium can diffuse through a thin glass wall, so it would escape from a light bulb (not very useful).

I suppose, then, that it can probably diffuse through a thick glass wall, but I'll have to look that up sometime with regards as to how much slower.
 
Facial said:
I suppose, then, that it can probably diffuse through a thick glass wall, but I'll have to look that up sometime with regards as to how much slower.
I did an experiment testing this last year. It turns out that effusion rates are proportional to molar mass (Graham's law?). If helium has a molar mass of something like 4 and krypton is way way up there in terms of mass, that's a considerable difference.
 
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Graham's law explains the relation between molar masses on the rate of diffusion. It should be the the inverse square root of the molar masses if I remember correctly, meaning Helium diffuses roughly 3.2 times as fast as argon (turns out that it has around 40 daltons of mass).

However, I need a reference on how 1) composition 2) thickness affect diffusion rates as well.
 
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ShawnD said:
Does helium cost more than argon or krypton?

For argon the answer must be yes. The atmosphere is about 0.7% argon (which is quite a bit if you think about it) by volume, meaning you can distill this gas right out of the air. The cost definitely makes sense here.
 

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