Exponential Growth and Decay: Differentiating with Respect to Time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differentiation of the exponential growth function, specifically the formula for continuous compounding of interest, A(t) = A0*e^(rt). Participants explore the differentiation process and the application of the chain rule and product rule in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Ivan, expresses confusion about differentiating the function A(t) = A0*e^(rt) and questions how the derivative dA/dt equals rA(t).
  • Another participant explains that A0 is a constant and that the derivative can be rewritten as r times the original function, A(t), without needing implicit differentiation.
  • Ivan later acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the chain rule and expresses a desire to clarify the differentiation process, particularly how the constant r factors into the derivative.
  • Additional participants suggest that both differentiation methods are valid and emphasize that r is a constant that simplifies the differentiation process.
  • One participant points out that Ivan's confusion may stem from a misunderstanding of the chain rule and reassures him that the differentiation of rt with respect to t results in r.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the differentiation process and the role of r as a constant, but there is some initial confusion from Ivan regarding the application of the chain rule and product rule. The discussion reflects a mix of clarification and exploration of differentiation techniques without a definitive resolution of all uncertainties.

Contextual Notes

Ivan's initial approach involved implicit differentiation, which he later recognized as unnecessary. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the roles of constants and variables in differentiation, as well as the application of different differentiation rules.

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Hello,

for continuous compouding (in the exponential growth and decay) the function for interest after t years is:

A(t) = A0*e^rt
A0 should be read A at time 0

in the book, they say when you differentiate this function this is what you get

dA/dt = r*A0*e^rt = rA(t)

I don't see how to do this differentiation to finally come up with rA(t). I am getting something else using implicit differentiation.

Thanks,

Ivan
 
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A(t) \ = \ A_0 e^r^t

A'(t) \ = \ rA_0 e^r^t

A_0 is just a constant. A_0 e^r^t \ = \ A(t) so in the second version they've just rewritten the derivative as r times the original function : A'(t) \ = \ rA_0 e^r^t \ = r A(t) . There's no need to use implicit differentiation, I'm curious why you thought you needed to use it?
 
sponsoredwalk said:
A(t) \ = \ A_0 e^r^t

A'(t) \ = \ rA_0 e^r^t

A_0 is just a constant. A_0 e^r^t \ = \ A(t) so in the second version they've just rewritten the derivative as r times the original function : A'(t) \ = \ rA_0 e^r^t \ = r A(t) . There's no need to use implicit differentiation, I'm curious why you thought you needed to use it?

Thanks for the reply.

I now realize that impl diff doesn't make any sense (lets call it the severe flu I am fighting). The question I still have is this:

d/dt A0*e^rt
take A0 out and differentiate e^rt with respect to t
Chain ruls has d/dt e^rt = e^rt * d/dt rt
d/dt rt (using product rule) = r*d/dt t + t* d/dt r = r + t dr/dt

Where does the 'r' from (as r times the original function) come from. What is wrong with my differentiation. I am not getting simply r * the original function as the derivative.

Thanks,

Ivan
 
Both methods work and in both methods you'll notice that r is a constant so it will drop out.

I'll just tell you that you wouldn't need to use the product rule when you're differentiating a constant times a variable but it is handy to notice you can use both methods for the future.

From reading this I don't think you understand the chain rule properly, not only should you notice that you're differentiating with respect to time (t) but that everything else in the function is just a constant.

www.khanacademy.org
http://www.ltcconline.net/greenl/courses/105/videos/VideoIndex.htm
http://online.math.uh.edu/HoustonACT/videocalculus/index.html

Some helpful videos if you're still a bit unsure just watch the ones relevant to you then come back and ask anything else if you're still a bit confused.

Take Care :)
 
sponsoredwalk said:
Both methods work and in both methods you'll notice that r is a constant so it will drop out.

I'll just tell you that you wouldn't need to use the product rule when you're differentiating a constant times a variable but it is handy to notice you can use both methods for the future.

From reading this I don't think you understand the chain rule properly, not only should you notice that you're differentiating with respect to time (t) but that everything else in the function is just a constant.

www.khanacademy.org
http://www.ltcconline.net/greenl/courses/105/videos/VideoIndex.htm
http://online.math.uh.edu/HoustonACT/videocalculus/index.html

Some helpful videos if you're still a bit unsure just watch the ones relevant to you then come back and ask anything else if you're still a bit confused.

Take Care :)

That is exactl it! I didnt realize that r in this case was a constant. That totally makes sense now. The differentiation with respect to t of rt would simply be r.

much appreciated! Thanks for the links as well.

Ivan
 

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