Exponential growth differential equation

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving exponential growth of bacteria, specifically modeled by a differential equation. The original poster presents a scenario where bacteria grow at a rate of 12% per hour, starting with an initial population of 1000. The problem requires deriving the growth equation and understanding the underlying principles of exponential growth.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the correct application of the differential equation for exponential growth, questioning the use of base e and the initial conditions. There are attempts to derive the growth formula from the differential equation, and some participants suggest alternative methods for calculating growth over time.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the correct formulation of the differential equation and addressing potential misunderstandings. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration steps and the implications of terminology used in the problem statement.

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There is a note of caution regarding the interpretation of growth rates and the terminology used in different courses, which may affect how the problem is approached. Additionally, a modification of the original problem introduces a new scenario with different parameters, prompting further exploration of the exponential growth model.

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Homework Statement



A biomedical company finds that a certain bacteria used for crop insect control will grow exponentially at the rate of 12% per hour. Starting with 1000 bacteria, how many will they have after 10h?

Homework Equations



Topic is application of differential equations.
y=Ce^kt

The Attempt at a Solution



This question is from the topic on application of differential equations.
I stumbled on the solution but i need to understand why it works and whether it is the correct method.

y+dy/dt=Ce^(0.12t)
at T=0, y=1000, dy/dt=0

1000+0=Ce^(0.12*0)
C=1000

Total T=y+dy/dt
T=1000e^(0.12t)

from here i just substitute in t=10 to get answer.

question is why exponential growth in this case uses base e and not other base? why does it work when C is initial value?

also is this the correct method when using differential equations to solve this problem? don't want the working to be affected just cause I know the formula is y=Ce^kt
 
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You are making things more complicated than they have to be.

y=C exp(k t) is of course the right starting point.

y(t + 1 hr) = y(t) + 12% = y(t) * 1.12.

Plug that into above equation. C will drop out and you can solve for k.

Next, you have y(0) = 1000, which gives you C=1000 as you have already noted.

The final step is to calculate y(10 hrs).

Another way is to say that each hour the number is multiplied by 1.12, so after 10 hours,
you multiply by (1.12)^10.

Note that you get the wrong answer (you underestimate the number of bacteria) if you just say +12% per hour x 10 hours = +120%. This is linear growth instead of exponential.
 
i would use formula directly but the topic is on differential equations. Need to derive the formula from differential equations first. How do you do that?
 
Is the question exactly as you worded it? The phrase 'will grow at a continuous rate of 12%' or 'will grow continuously with a relative rate of 12%' or something similar is often used to denote that the population satisfies the differential equation
dP/dt = kP where here k=.12. I strongly suspect that different courses will use slightly different terminology, so you should check carefully with how the words have been used in your class before
 
ok. now the problem is modified.

Number of bacteria is assumed to grow exponentially at the rate given by dN/dt = kN, where N is the number of bacteria at time t hour. The bacteria grow to double the original amount in 0.5 hour.

Find the equation for N as a function of t and the original amount N0.

dN/dt = kN

∫1/kN dN = ∫dt

ln (kN) = t+C

kN = et+C

kN = Cet

at t=0.5 , k=2

2N = Ce0.5

C = \frac{2N}{e^0.5}

substitute back C

N = 2N0et-0.5

don't know the correct answer, so I'm posting here if anyone can tell me if I am correct... thanks!
 
Nope, check your second step, the integration. Should be ln(N)=kt+C. Then N=Cexp(kt), the standard expression for exponential growth or decay.
 

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