Exponentiation with zero base, complex exponent?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the definition and implications of exponentiation with a base of zero and a complex exponent. Participants explore various cases, particularly focusing on the behavior of expressions like \(0^z\) where \(z\) is complex, and the potential for indeterminate forms and branch cuts in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a general definition for \(0^z\) exists when \(z\) is complex, noting that real cases are more straightforward.
  • One participant suggests that \(0^z\) can be expressed as \(0^{a+bi} = 0^a 0^{bi} = 0\) for \(a > 0\), but this raises questions about the validity of such expressions.
  • Multiple participants inquire about the meaning of \(0^{bi}\), with one noting it can be expressed as \(e^{bi \ln 0}\), which is considered indeterminate.
  • Another participant proposes that \(0^{bi}\) has a magnitude of 1 but is phase indeterminate, leading to further questions about whether the overall expression can still be considered zero.
  • One participant argues that \(0^z\) should be zero if \(\text{Re}(z) > 0\), infinite if \(\text{Re}(z) < 0\), and indeterminate if \(\text{Re}(z) = 0\), while another counters that \(\text{Re}(z) < 0\) should be considered undefined rather than infinite.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of using zero as a base for exponentials, particularly in relation to properties of exponentiation and the natural logarithm, which is undefined for zero.
  • One participant discusses the necessity of defining \(z^a\) for non-integer \(a\) through complex logarithms, highlighting the complications that arise with \( \ln 0\) and the behavior of the exponential function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the topic, with no consensus reached. There are competing interpretations regarding the behavior of \(0^z\) for complex \(z\), particularly concerning the definitions and implications of indeterminate forms.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of logarithms and exponentials, the ambiguity surrounding branch cuts, and unresolved mathematical steps regarding the behavior of limits as parameters approach zero.

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Is there a good general definition of [itex]0^z[/itex], where z may be complex? The cases where z is real (and positive, negative, or zero) are straightforward, but what if z isn't real? Are there arbitrary branch cuts involved, or is there some universal definition?
 
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Is it not legitimate to use:

$$0^z=0^{a+bi}=0^a0^{bi}=0\quad\text{for}~~a>0$$
?
 
What does $$0^{bi}$$ mean?
 
Hmm, I just figured either the answer is indeterminant for all non-real ##z## or it would be ##0## for all ##z|\text{Re}(z)>0##.
 
johnqwertyful said:
What does $$0^{bi}$$ mean?

$$0^{bi}=e^{biln0}$$

This is indeterminate with magnitude = 1.
 
As long as the magnitude = 1, even if the phase is indeterminant, can we say that the product, and therefore final answer is 0? Or do we just say the function is indeterminant for all non real z?
 
Amplifying on what mathman said, it seems like any expression of the form [itex]0^{bi}[/itex] is an indeterminate form. For example, suppose [itex]\epsilon>0[/itex] and [itex]\delta[/itex] are both real. Then for

[tex]\lim_{\epsilon\rightarrow0^+,\ \delta\rightarrow0}|\epsilon^{\delta+i}|=e^{\delta\ln\epsilon}[/tex]

has a value that depends on how rapidly [itex]\epsilon[/itex] and [itex]\delta[/itex] approach zero compared to each other. So I think [itex]0^z[/itex] is zero if Re(z)>0, infinite if Re(z)<0, and indeterminate if Re(z)=0.
 
I think if Re(z)<0 then you basically have a divide by 0 going on, and should be undefined and not "infinite".
 
I don't think 0 can be a valid base for exponentials. Think of the defining properties. 0^(-n) = 1/0^n which doesn't exist for n in N. 0^(ix) is ill-defined, because complex exponentiation goes through natural logarithm for which ln 0 doesn't exist.
 
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If you want to define z^a for a non-integer (irrational, actually), and z complex, you have to set up a branch of complex log and then define ##z^a := e^{(alogz)}## to have an unambiguous definition ( and single-valued function). But then you have the problem that log0 =ln|0|+iarg0 . The argument is variable, depending on the branch, but ln0 cannot be defined.

And, from another perspective, a log z will be a local inverse for expz , which has no global inverse, since it is not 1-1 ( it is infinite-to-1, actually) , but has local inverses, e.g., by the inverse function theorem, and these local inverses are precisely the branches of logz. But exp z is never 0.
 

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