Express E due to a point charge at the origin

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The problem involves expressing the electric field E due to a point charge q located at the origin, specifically in cylindrical polar coordinates. The original poster is seeking to transition from the known expression in spherical coordinates.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the electric field expression from spherical to cylindrical coordinates. Questions arise regarding the necessity of converting to Cartesian coordinates first, and the implications of symmetry on the electric field's dependence on the radial distance.

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Some participants provide guidance on how to express the electric field components in cylindrical coordinates, while others clarify the relationship between the different coordinate systems. There is acknowledgment of the need to consider both magnitude and direction in the electric field vector.

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There are mentions of potential confusion due to the differing conventions in naming angles between coordinate systems, as well as the incomplete nature of the original expression provided by the poster.

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Homework Statement


Express the electric field E due to a point charge q at the origin in cylindrical polar coordinates.

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Know that E = q / 4*pi*epsilon_0*r^2 in the r-direction, which is the answer in spherical coordinates. How we we swap to cylindrical?
 
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Hello leeban, :welcome:

Same as when we would have to change to Cartesian coordinates:
We simply express the ##\vec E## in terms of ##E_\rho##, ##E_\phi## and ##E_z## :smile:
 
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Do you recommend swapping to Cartesian and then to cylindrical? I know the linear transforms for those, but not from spherical to cylindrical
 
I do not recommend that. For one, you already have that ##\phi## in the one is equal to ##\phi## in the other system (*)
And for the ##z##, yes, you have to do that, because Cartesian ##z## = cylindrical ##z##.
And from ##r## to ##\rho## is a breeze.

(*) you want to beware that those stupid mathematicians chose to confuse everyone by swapping ##\theta## and ##\phi##

[edit] proof of this claim: check out how wikipedia makes a mess of your exercise.
 
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leeban7 said:
which is the answer in spherical coordinates
Not the full answer, though ! You only mention ##E_r## :rolleyes:
 
Due to symmetry isn't the electric field on dependent on r?
 
The magnitude is, yes. But ##\vec E## is a vector: it also has a direction (along ##\hat r##) and you only give the radial component without stating the other two.
 
Would I be correct in then saying that
\vec E = q/4*pi*epsilon_0*r^2 \hat r + 0 \hat omega + 0 \hat phi
 
leeban7 said:
Would I be correct in then saying that
$$\vec E = {q\over 4\pi\varepsilon_0 r^2} \, \hat r + 0 \, \hat \phi + 0 \, \hat \theta$$
Yes, that (somewhat edited * :smile: ) is the full expression I hinted at. Hopefully makes it easier for you to convert to cylindrical.

* $$\vec E = {q\over 4\pi\varepsilon_0 r^2} \, \hat r + 0 \, \hat \phi + 0 \, \hat \theta$$
 

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