Express wave function in spherical harmonics

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The discussion revolves around expressing a wave function in terms of spherical harmonics, specifically for the purpose of calculating expectation values of angular momentum operators L2 and Lz. The original poster presents a wave function in Cartesian coordinates and seeks to convert it into spherical coordinates and subsequently into spherical harmonics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of the wave function from Cartesian to spherical coordinates and the challenges in expressing it as a linear combination of spherical harmonics. Questions arise regarding the representation of terms involving angles and the implications for calculating expectation values.

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Some participants have provided guidance on expressing components of the wave function in terms of spherical harmonics, suggesting the use of complex exponentials for certain terms. There is ongoing exploration of how to apply angular momentum operators to the transformed wave function, with considerations for normalization and the properties of spherical harmonics.

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Participants note the need for normalization of the wave function and the use of orthonormal properties of spherical harmonics, which may influence the calculations of expectation values. The discussion reflects a learning process with various interpretations and approaches being considered.

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1. Problem:
I have a wave function ψ(r) = (x + y + z)*f(r) and want to find the expectation values of L2 and Lz. It is suggested that I first change the wave function to spherical coordinates, then put that in terms of spherical harmonics of the form Yl,m.

2. Homework Equations :
Spherical harmonics and conversions from Cartesian to spherical coordinates

3. Attempt at solution:
So I know how to express the wave function in spherical coordinates (which should be ψ(r) = r*f(r)*(sinΘcosø + sinΘsinø + cosΘ). I am having a hard time going from this to spherical harmonics though (I am sort of new to this). I can see from a table of spherical harmonics that Y1,0 does have a cosΘ, but how would I get the terms that have Θ and ø? (I can see that there are some spherical harmonics that have e, but this would give me cosø + isinø, so it doesn't look like that would get me what I want.)
 
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Hi z2394,
The wavefunction can be written rf(r)sinθ[cosø + sinø] + rf(r)cosθ. As you said, the second term here can be written in terms of a single spherical harmonic. To get the first term as a linear combination of spherical harmonics, try expressing cosø and sinø in their complex exponential forms.
 
So I see how to do that now, and I get ψ(r) = r*f(r)*(\sqrt{2{\pi}/3}(-Y1,1+Y1,-1) - (1/i)\sqrt{2{\pi}/3}(Y1,1 + Y1,-1) + \sqrt{4{\pi}/3}Y1,0). But now how do I use this to get <L2> and <Lz>? I know to do <ψ| L2 |ψ> and <ψ| Lz |ψ>, but does L2 acting on ψ here still give me the l(l+1)h2 eigenvalue, and Lz the mh eigenvalue, (where h is actually the reduced Planck constant), when acting on this ψ?
 
z2394 said:
I know to do <ψ| L2 |ψ> and <ψ| Lz |ψ>, but does L2 acting on ψ here still give me the l(l+1)h2 eigenvalue, and Lz the mh eigenvalue, (where h is actually the reduced Planck constant), when acting on this ψ?
When L2 and Lz act on the spherical harmonics, then the eigenvalue returned is l(l+1)h2 and mh respectively. First though, you will need to normalize ψ. Introduce some normalization constant, say A, and solve for A using the fact that the spherical harmonics are a complete set of orthonormal functions.
 

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