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Can you imagine the air combat between F-22 and MiG 1.42? Who do you think will be winner?
F-22 vs MiG 1.42: Who Will Win Air Combat?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around a hypothetical air combat scenario between the F-22 and the MiG 1.42, exploring various factors that could influence the outcome, including pilot skill, technology, and historical comparisons. The scope includes conceptual analysis and speculative reasoning about modern air combat dynamics.
Discussion Character
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants suggest that the outcome would depend on the skill of the pilot.
- Others argue that in modern combat, technology such as missiles and countermeasures plays a more significant role than pilot skill.
- A participant humorously notes that the outcome might depend on the narrative context, such as whether the film is American.
- There is a belief that the MiG 1.42, while impressive, may not be produced in significant numbers by Russia, which could affect its effectiveness.
- One participant draws a parallel to historical air battles, suggesting that the MiG might have an advantage in maneuverability, while the F-22 could have superior weapon systems.
- Another participant expresses skepticism about the F-22's value, labeling it as a "boondoggle" and referencing external critiques of the aircraft.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on which aircraft would prevail in combat. Multiple competing views regarding the importance of pilot skill versus technology, as well as differing perspectives on the capabilities of the aircraft, remain unresolved.
Contextual Notes
Some claims depend on assumptions about pilot skill, technological advancements, and production capabilities, which are not fully explored or agreed upon in the discussion.
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quantumdude
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The better pilot.
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drag
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Nope, it's the 21st century out there, pilots don't matter
much anymore. It's the one with the better missiles and
countermeasures.
much anymore. It's the one with the better missiles and
countermeasures.
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Clausius2
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It depends if the film is american or not. If F-22 is driven by Tom Cruise, surely he will be the winner, and he will defeat the comunism.
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Yea, Mig 1.42 does seem cool, but the f22 is evenly matched and I doubt any will be built by russia.
I think the best plane is aurora if it exists...
I think the best plane is aurora if it exists...
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I think it would go down pretty much like the old classic battles between the F. 86 and the Mig 15. As was the case with those aircraft, the Mig has a slight advantage in maneuverability, but the American fighter has a better weapon system.
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THe F-22 is pretty much just a boondoggle
http://www.pogo.org/p/defense/do-000812-f22.htm
Check out the other stuff on pogo from Col. Riccioni
http://www.pogo.org/p/x/archivedefense.html#f22
http://www.pogo.org/p/defense/do-010801-unilateraldisarm.html
http://www.pogo.org/p/defense/do-000812-f22.htm
Check out the other stuff on pogo from Col. Riccioni
http://www.pogo.org/p/x/archivedefense.html#f22
http://www.pogo.org/p/defense/do-010801-unilateraldisarm.html
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